Anyone received MCN paid for at MOA rally

[Braddog]

Originally Posted by aperris

I purchased one at the West Bend, WI rally that took forever to start. When I contacted MCN they believed me and said they would send 2-3 issues until my subscription got to them. They did and when I checked my mags a few monthes later I saw a renewal expiration date that jibed with my purchase date.

The mag salespersons may be slow, but I have never been cheated.

Aperris

I bought mine at the International Motorcycle Show here in Minneapolis in February. My experience was the same. It took a long time, but the expiration date did jibe with the arrival of the first issue. So, yeah, very slow, but not cheated.

[mcswainm]

I called MCN and they had no record of my subscription. I was disappointed with MCN. The lady sounded pissed that I was calling to see if they had my info from KAS. She quoted me the same phone number I have on the receipt from KAS and said call them. I tried. No Answer. I went to the bank and filed a dispute on my VISA with KAS.

I know some folks say that they are behind. The thing that really gets me is they had plenty of time to charge my visa.

I am done with KAS for sure and I wish the MOA would ban them. If I see them at another rally I may sit my Kermit chair in front of the booth and warn potential victims.

I am done with MCN as well. If they are supposed to be the "consumer reports" of the motorcycle industry but allows a company with a BBB rating of F to represent them I don't trust what they print!!!

In case you check KAS is not a BBB member, but there have been so many complaints they still have a F rating.

[maxscycle]

Folks
You may also simply go to Motorcycle Consumer News own website and subscibe for only $22 a year. Seems like that's a lot easier than dealing with any third party sales company.

http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/

Max

[nplenzick]

Originally Posted by Dawgmiester

+1 Here on the KAS subscription. MCN gave me the phone number for KAS and I am told there is no record of my subscription. MCN customer service seems to be handling the situation nicely. A supervisor told me about a number of complaints regarding KAS subscriptions.

I wish the MOA would only allow vendors who are "Invited" to show up and sell their wares. I remember when you could actually get a good deal on items. From walking around the vendor areas, I did not see too many "Deals". When is the last time you saw a good deal on a set of tires? This is the one of best opportunity these vendors have to show their products to such a large group.



Invitation only in my opinion would weed out folks like KAS from selling subscriptions at more than one rally.

I would like to know what you consider a deal? Most vendors including myself discount products from list price. Most also supply door prizes and the such.
In case you didn't know vendors are charged for their space, it's not free. Now add travel expense, employees, and the such. Next year I'll be making a 6000 mile round trip to Redmond. That's 6K of diesel fuel at 9.5mpg, not including wear and tear. So far I haven't found another show on the way out or the way back to offset the travel expenses. I know quit a few vendors who attended this year who will not do the trip next year. To be honest with you if I was selling tires I would sell them at list price unless someone paid for them in advance of the rally. I couldn't imagine what tires to bring, how many, the logistics of having qualified employees mount them, plus the hotel, food, and travel expenses of it all.
As for KAS, I was surprised to see that they were there this year after all of the complaints last year. Unethical vendors really do need to be banned from future events. I would suggest contacting Sam Munn the rally vendor coordinator.

[mcswainm]

Originally Posted by nplenzick

I would like to know what you consider a deal? Most vendors including myself discount products from list price. Most also supply door prizes and the such.
In case you didn't know vendors are charged for their space, it's not free. Now add travel expense, employees, and the such. Next year I'll be making a 6000 mile round trip to Redmond. That's 6K of diesel fuel at 9.5mpg, not including wear and tear. So far I haven't found another show on the way out or the way back to offset the travel expenses. I know quit a few vendors who attended this year who will not do the trip next year. To be honest with you if I was selling tires I would sell them at list price unless someone paid for them in advance of the rally. I couldn't imagine what tires to bring, how many, the logistics of having qualified employees mount them, plus the hotel, food, and travel expenses of it all.
As for KAS, I was surprised to see that they were there this year after all of the complaints last year. Unethical vendors really do need to be banned from future events. I would suggest contacting Sam Munn the rally vendor coordinator.

Hi Nplenzick,
Please don't think I was bashing Vendors in general. Just the one who charged my credit card immediatly and then did not have the time to forward the subscripton on to MCN. I really appreciate vendors. In fact I won a door prize at the RA rally and personally hunted the vendor and thanked them for donating the prize. A great experence getting to meet the vendor and learn more about the products they sold. I do not know what you were vending but you were probably an OK vendor. I expect 99% are. Just like the folks on this board and others. I have bought items and only been misrepresented once. I guess that is what I expected of all vendors at a BMW rally.

Mike

[nplenzick]

Originally Posted by mcswainm

Hi Nplenzick,
Please don't think I was bashing Vendors in general. Just the one who charged my credit card immediatly and then did not have the time to forward the subscripton on to MCN. I really appreciate vendors. In fact I won a door prize at the RA rally and personally hunted the vendor and thanked them for donating the prize. A great experence getting to meet the vendor and learn more about the products they sold. I do not know what you were vending but you were probably an OK vendor. I expect 99% are. Just like the folks on this board and others. I have bought items and only been misrepresented once. I guess that is what I expected of all vendors at a BMW rally.

Mike

Wasn't replying to you but to the person who said he didn't see too many deals and their comment on a deal for tires.
I completely agree with you about the vendor who took your money and I would hope that after two years of complaints that they would not be allowed back.