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    Going for Lobster

    Since I can't seem to login from work with by login & password, I'll post the direction from the rally to the Maine coast. This is a great ride, lots of backroads and curves. As folks have said, east-west roads are hard to find, but they are sure fun, so here is a great dayride to the coast,

    From the rally:
    Take Rt 2 E to Richmond (Rt89)
    Rt 89 s to Barre (Rt 62)
    Rt 62 to Rt302s
    Now the fun begins

    to Rt 25 s
    to Rt5 s
    to Fairlee _ take left on bridge to NH
    Rt 10 s - .5 mile
    to rt25A
    to rt 25 s
    to rt3a (1 mile)
    Left @ stop sign
    to Rt 175
    to rt 3
    to rt 25B
    to rt 25 e
    to rt 16 s
    to rt 25 e (Maine)
    to rt 35 e to Gray, Maine
    to Yardmouth Rd
    to Yardmouth (rt 1 N to Freeport)

    200 miles one way, 4 to 4.5 hours, enjoy

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    anythings possible, i did this route (with a few detours) and back in one day last year, but plan 22 hours of straight riding :

    maine IS deceptively big and all those little roads that will take you from the New Hampshire border to the Maine coast are SLOW, on that particular saddle sore ride we made the mistake of taking back roads from Massachusetts across southern NH and up over Portland to avoid the beach traffic on 95, it was a big mistake time wise and extreemly time consuming....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubbaZanetti
    anythings possible, i did this route (with a few detours) and back in one day last year, but plan 22 hours of straight riding :

    maine IS deceptively big and all those little roads that will take you from the New Hampshire border to the Maine coast are SLOW, on that particular saddle sore ride we made the mistake of taking back roads from Massachusetts across southern NH and up over Portland to avoid the beach traffic on 95, it was a big mistake time wise and extreemly time consuming....................
    We did US1. Enjoyed it. Stayed in Bar Harbor on the way back from Nova Scotia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
    Since I can't seem to login from work with by login & password, I'll post the direction from the rally to the Maine coast. This is a great ride, lots of backroads and curves. As folks have said, east-west roads are hard to find, but they are sure fun, so here is a great dayride to the coast,

    From the rally:
    Take Rt 2 E to Richmond (Rt89)
    Rt 89 s to Barre (Rt 62)
    Rt 62 to Rt302s
    Now the fun begins

    to Rt 25 s
    to Rt5 s
    to Fairlee _ take left on bridge to NH
    Rt 10 s - .5 mile
    to rt25A
    to rt 25 s
    to rt3a (1 mile)
    Left @ stop sign
    to Rt 175
    to rt 3
    to rt 25B
    to rt 25 e
    to rt 16 s
    to rt 25 e (Maine)
    to rt 35 e to Gray, Maine
    to Yardmouth Rd
    to Yardmouth (rt 1 N to Freeport)

    200 miles one way, 4 to 4.5 hours, enjoy
    Hey now,

    You are assuming an overall average of 50mph *including stops*.

    That is not going to happen. Better average for that ride is 45mph and that is at Iron Butt Rally pace (not fast but absolutey ZERO stops). Traffic, small towns etc all conspire to make a "fast" east / west ride in Northern New England (Essex is Northern New England) very difficult.

    I also host the Minuteman 1000 (24hr endurance rally) and we also offer a Saddle Sore 1000 route that cuts across norther Vermont (from Swanton) to Bangor, Maine. This segment usually takes our riders at least four-5 (in June before schools are out) hours and you end up in Bangor which is a bit north. From Bangor it is about 20 miles south to Bucksport (route 1) where you could find the lobster of desire, if that is your thing. So figure on 4.5 - 5.5 *hard* hours to the coast.

    Fastest way from rally site to Bucksport is almost 300 miles. Fastest way from rally site to Wiscasset (Red's eats, good place for lobster rolls) is 239. Fastest way from the rally site to LL Bean (Kittery trading post is much better IMO) is 214 but time wise is not much quicker than going to Wiscassett.

    I say the best plan is to come early or stay late and explore Maine and more.

    Best,

    Rob Nye
    06 Rally Co-Chair

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    You'd do fine making good time and a reasonable average speed until you had to got out of NY. Local speed limits in New England tend to run about 45mph, with 35 zones in central town districts. Passing zones are scarce and traffic is somewhat heavier than you'd see on the interstates.

    That would be a difficult day ride, especially coming from MI. I'd guess that total mileage would be in the neighborhood of 1500 and large portions of that would be in New England.

    Plan on two days, getting home really late the second day.
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    How far to Maine

    No one has yet mentioned the obvious answer.

    Come early to Vermont, stay at Lake Carmi State Campground which has been reserved by the BMW MOA for our members exclusive use on Monday through Wednesday (checkout Thursday am) and then take your time for a liesurely ride through VT, NH and across Maine. Work your way through as many lobsters as you want before heading back to Lake Carmi to sleep it off before the official start of the 2006 International Rally.

    Motivations, reasons, even excuses to ride faster/farther were among the very factors involved in the MOA setting up the Lake Carmi location for our members benefit.

    Come early, stay late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Friedle
    Come early to Vermont, stay at Lake Carmi State Campground which has been reserved by the BMW MOA for our members exclusive use on Monday through Wednesday (checkout Thursday am) and then take your time for a liesurely ride through VT, NH and across Maine. Work your way through as many lobsters as you want before heading back to Lake Carmi to sleep it off before the official start of the 2006 International Rally.
    OK You could even look at the rally sched and pick a day, I usually do on Fri, when you can leave early, be gone all day, and be back for the band and beer garden. Thsi Lake Carmi thing might be the best new idea.

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    Hey now,

    You are assuming an overall average of 50mph *including stops*.<<<

    Its just 200 miles, why would you stop! Nice range on the GS. I do this ride every spring and that's the time it takes, sorry if you ride slower then it will take longer. Remember also that here in Vermont, you can pass on the double yellow, so you're never stuck behind someone for long. When there's lobster waiting, I'm not stopping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
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    Hey now,

    You are assuming an overall average of 50mph *including stops*.<<<

    Its just 200 miles, why would you stop! Nice range on the GS. I do this ride every spring and that's the time it takes, sorry if you ride slower then it will take longer. Remember also that here in Vermont, you can pass on the double yellow, so you're never stuck behind someone for long. When there's lobster waiting, I'm not stopping.
    Stop for gas, stop to pee, stop for a red light. Slow down to 35mph for a few miles while you wait for a safe place to pass. A 50mph overall average for a 200 mile ride on secondary roads in New England is very fast. You and I may do this all the time but to suggest that a visitor from say the midwest will is irresponsible.

    Sure you can legally cross the double yellow in Vermont but you can't in New Hampshire or Maine. Perhaps you do anyway.

    The route has numerous towns and speed zones. The state speed limit on secondary roads is 50mph. To do this ride in 4 hours, or more importantly to promote doing this ride in this time is to endorse riding well outside of what many in local law enforcement would find acceptable. As an anonymous guest you can get away with promoting it, I can't and I will not suggest it as an "easy" ride.

    The last thing I want to do is give a rider who has never been to New England the idea that you can go from the rally site to coastal Maine and back for Lobster in one day at anything other than a very aggressive pace, as in don't stop no matter how intresting the stop is.

    I would restate that perhaps folks would have more fun if thay planned their trip east to incude a day or two before or after the rally wandering the coast and interior of northern New England.

    Of course YMMV and if you like lobster that much and you like to ride "focused" then yes, by all means you can go from Essex to Maine for Lobster and back in one day (daylight day).

    Best,

    Rob Nye
    06 Rally Co-Chair

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    Quote Originally Posted by phil
    Make sure you go to Capt Newwicks in South Portland Maine. Best lobster in Maine. Easy Day trip 2 1/2 hours each way.
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    You are nuts to think you can get to S Portland in 2 1/2 hours from the Burlington area. There are several places in the Rally area where you can get a good lobster without the trek to Maine. Sorry to be negative, but I live in Vermont, and while the best lobsters I have had are from Maine, on the island of Vinalhaven from a friend who is a lobsterman, but, they aren't bad when alive and cooked in Vermont.

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    When my wife and I got engaged (34 years ago) we had lobster dinners in Gorham, NH. It was 2 lobsters/person for $4.99/person! Hmmm, was it really that long ago?
    Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Nye

    Sure you can legally cross the double yellow in Vermont but you can't in New Hampshire or Maine. Perhaps you do anyway.

    The route has numerous towns and speed zones.
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    Ok, good topic: what are the motor vehicle laws, and specifically motorcycle laws, that we need to know in Vermont? For instance, in Michigan unposted roads have a 55mph speed limit. Are two bikers allowed to ride abreast? (I don't do this, but just wondering.) Etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancogan
    Ok, good topic: what are the motor vehicle laws, and specifically motorcycle laws, that we need to know in Vermont? For instance, in Michigan unposted roads have a 55mph speed limit. Are two bikers allowed to ride abreast? (I don't do this, but just wondering.) Etc.
    The information you seek will be available on the rally webpage shortly.

    Best,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered
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    Remember also that here in Vermont, you can pass on the double yellow, so you're never stuck behind someone for long. When there's lobster waiting, I'm not stopping.
    You should know, that while it is legal to pass on a DYL it is NOT LEGAL on hills, curves (not just blind ones either), intersections and where posted No Passing.
    It is also NOT legal to: exceed the speed limit when passing another vehicle, pass more than one vehicle, pass a moving vehicle on the right (even if it has it's left turn signal on).
    The law is still written that way because VT is still mostly rural and the chance of you coming up behind a manure spreader or hay wagon is great. This allows you to pass...... safely.
    Interestingly, an officer CAN ticket you for crossing the center line. It is the "passers" responsibility to make a safe pass. If an officer ticketed you for passing, you wouldn't be able to use the excuse "I was told......."
    While I can make time in the twisties, I don't push it on the straights and especially in towns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRene
    Depends on your idea of "day ride..." I'm thinking NOT.

    Yup. Check Mapquest, slabbing all the way:
    Total Est. Time: 13 hours, 38 minutes Total Est. Distance: 844.85 miles

    Go for the long weekend plan. We need your tourist dollars.
    Let's qualify that, I was assuming a day trip from your posted home, in Michigan. Duh. Dope slap me.
    You mean from Essex Jct. I do the Brunswick, ME area to Burlington, VT happily in 5 hours by slab, about 280 miles. There are lots of great coastal roads here to enjoy once you arrive, but to simply fly and eat, you could do it in a businesslike day. I'd stay and see the coast for a day if I were you coming all the way from Michigan.
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