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    Question Date query

    Just for greater certainty.... when it is said that the rally is July 20-23 that means that we can sign-in on the 19th, the fun begins of the 20th and the 23rd is travel home day, right? I just want to make sure that I get the accomodation reservation right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwroadsterca
    Just for greater certainty.... when it is said that the rally is July 20-23 that means that we can sign-in on the 19th, the fun begins of the 20th and the 23rd is travel home day, right? I just want to make sure that I get the accomodation reservation right.

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    Mike,

    You are correct.

    The gates will open on Wednesday, July 19th at noon with seminars, events and vendors commencing on the morning of the 20th. The 23rd (Sunday) is a clean up day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Nye

    The gates will open on Wednesday, July 19th at noon
    Rob,

    Nice to see the gates opening on Wednesday, but will we still have the "requirement" that they volunteer for a shift if they get in early? I have known for many a National that one should volunteer for a fun rally job and get on site way before the crowd. Even if people are not required to help out if they get in early, I would hope that the suggestion that they volunteer would still be in place. Some of by best rally memories are related to my experience as a Rally Worker!


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    Absolutely!

    Ya know some of the best friends I have made through the MOA were introduced to me at the National while we were helping out.

    There is something about being one of the hosts that is great. No matter what you do or how long you do it if you help out you are one of the many hosts that welcome thousands of beemerphiles to the rally.

    Without hosts there is no party.

    Best,

    Rob Nye

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    Exclamation Pricing at Lake Carmi

    Hi, everyone!

    I'm a new R12GS owner, and this will be my first rally ever. I'm a bit addled.

    Rob Nye's post mentioned a very low fee for campers ($5 or someting equally ridiculous). This, I assume, does not cover the fee of the actual campsite, lean-to, or cabin. Am I correct in this assumption?

    Mack Harrell

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    Question How do we notify Lake Carmi personnel that we're BMW MOA?

    ... so as to secure the low rate?

    Mack Harrell

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    Exclamation Carmi is already full?!

    I just tried going through the process to reserve a campsite at Lake Carmi. Every alternative came up with the same result "There are no campsites available."

    Is this because the camp has been sold out already? Or, perhaps, because the whole camp has been reserved by BMW MOA? If the latter, how do we reserve a campsite?

    Please help!

    Mack Harrell

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    Mack,

    You are wrong!

    The price you heard is correct, camping at Carmi will be under five bucks per person on a tent site. I need to check on lean to sites; I think they will be an extra dollar per person.

    Normally you need to pay per site which is either 16/18 bucks for a tent site or 23/25 for a lean to. The difference is lake side or not. The base rate allows four people per site, additional (up to 8) campers have an additional per-person fee.

    For the time we have the exclusive use (Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday nights) campers will be paying per person instead of per site, which is how we got you this rate.

    Here is a map of the campground. The areas marked red are prime camping at the higher rate. You can view a larger image by visiting the
    Lake Carmi State Park website.



    If you have your heart set on a specific site the only way to guarantee you will be camping there is to reserve the site for the weekend before our exclusive use starts, otherwise it is first come first served. Reservations are not being accepted for the period of our exclusive use, otherwise we could end up with the Black Sheep next to the Church Ladies.

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    Exclamation Carmi rates?!

    Thanks for the clarification, Rob.

    Okay. I'm in the process of reserving a tentsite. The price is $70 for Thursday through Sunday. They want to bill this to my Visa, etc.

    How do I tell them that this isn't according to the BMWMOA agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackharrell
    Thanks for the clarification, Rob.

    Okay. I'm in the process of reserving a tentsite. The price is $70 for Thursday through Sunday. They want to bill this to my Visa, etc.

    How do I tell them that this isn't according to the BMWMOA agreement?
    Okay... I think I'm figuring this out.

    I pay full rate Thur-Sunday, but Monday-Wednesday the BMW MOA rate. What do we do for Thursday-Saturday?

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    Camping

    Quote Originally Posted by mackharrell
    Okay... I think I'm figuring this out.
    I pay full rate Thur-Sunday, but Monday-Wednesday the BMW MOA rate. What do we do for Thursday-Saturday?
    Here is a suggested camping scenario:

    Come to Vermont early to enjoy the riding in the area. You may camp anywhere that week, however - if you want to camp at Lake Carmi, the BMW MOA has reserved a place for you & covered part of the cost) at Lake Carmi on Mon through Wed, July 17, 18, & 19.

    Note: If you arrive at Lake Carmi before Monday, July 17th, you are on your own to find [& pay for] a site.

    The rally starts on July 20th. Pack up your camping gear, and move to the rally site in Burlington on Wednesday afternoon (July 19th) or Thursday morning, the 20th.

    Camp on-site with the rest of your brothers and sisters in the BMW MOA for the dates of the rally, July 20 through July 23. On Sunday morning, the 23rd, pack up your bike and go home, or continue your riding adventure.
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    Lake Carmi camping

    The MOA has reserved the ENTIRE campground for Mon- Wed nights for the use of MOA members. That is why you can't make reservations through the VT computer reservation system. This is a very popular state park. The only way we could guarantee enough room for our attendees was to reserve the entire place for Mon-Wed nights, "checkout time" of 1100 on Thursday. We have left access to the swimming area open to the general public, but that is not directly connected to the camping area.

    The VT Parks people will collect the nominal fee for the MOA member, or their guest's, use of the tent sites or lean-to sites or the two cabins for your stay. The fee structure is as follows: Cabin Sites- $10 per person per night. Four person/cabin/night maximum occupancy; Lean-to sites-$5 per person per night. Eight person/site/night maximum occupancy; Tent sites- $4.00 per person per night. Eight person/site/night maximum occupancy

    There is plenty of room, showers, restrooms and a great swimming beach as part of the park. The entrance to the camping area as shown in Rob's graphic will be secured by VT Parks department personnel.

    Watch the website and the pages of the ON for more details in the coming months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mackharrell
    Okay... I think I'm figuring this out.

    I pay full rate Thur-Sunday, but Monday-Wednesday the BMW MOA rate. What do we do for Thursday-Saturday?
    Hey now,

    The reason we have made arrangements at Carmi is to provide people who would like to spend some time in Vermont before the rally a place to camp and hang out together at a great rate.

    Each rally site is different regarding the size of the set up crew along with other variables that determine how many people can be on-site when. For Vermont we contracted with the facility to open the rally to who ever wants to arrive on Wednesday at noon. Traditionally this earlier time was designated for people who were volunteering so they could get set up. In some past rallies the locals and the rally chair encouraged people to come early. As the rally has grown in size the number of people coming early has increased which in some cases added stress for both the volunteers and the site management.

    Our arrangment with the site requires us to control how many people are on site before Wednesday, however we all would like to invite you to come to Vermont early which is why we made arrangements for the exclusive use of Carmi.

    I would highly recommend that you come early and stay at Carmi until Wednesday and then re-locate to the rally site. This way you will be able to get the full rally experience and enjoy the beer garden, bands and your new friends without the obligation of a 40 mile back road ride home.

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    Hey Mack!

    The short version is the first part of the week at Carmi and then you move yourself and all your stuff over to the fairgrounds and camp there. The rally fee includes camping and rally admission, but you'll be on your own for food and beer or beverages.

    See ya there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBasa
    The short version is the first part of the week at Carmi and then you move yourself and all your stuff over to the fairgrounds and camp there.
    With all those people at the fairgrounds (over 8,000!) I wonder how many folks will stay at Carmi thru Saturday and just commute to the rally.

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