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    MOA-StPaul Rally: Neighborhood FYI

    Since I can almost see&hear the rally from my house, I've started this Google PicasaWebAlbum..

    MOA2014StPaul^rally neighborhood FYI [view FullScreen 100%]

    ..intending to (eventually) give distant incoming rally riders a heads-up of what's where near fairgrounds, show how to avoid MSP road congestion, alleviate concerns about a 'big city' location, etc. Mostly info-graphics as annotated screen-shots of local GoogleMaps that riders can download to mobile devices as needed ..or Forward album link to other rally riders or clubs who may rarely use the MOA forum.

    Its contents will be tweaked 'whenever' until rally. Note however: I'm not the one to 'ask anything' MSP entertainment-wise; folks best use other threads like 'ask Kevin' for that ;-)

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    Wow, great idea! Thanks, I'll be using this in July.

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    MOA-StPaul Rally: Neighborhood FYI

    Well, I've at last created some additional content for the GooglePicasaWebAlbum:

    MOA2014StPaul^rally neighborhood FYI [view FullScreen 100%]

    New content's subjects: MSP local roads to avoid congestion, potholes, mosquitoes.

    Duane S (more to come)
    [StP: can hear rally from home]

    Correction: the MN State Fairgrounds itself has very effective mosquito control. It's the neighborhood back yards and/or parks that may have skeeters (unless a local authority applies additional measures).
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    Great stuff Duane. Thanks for all you work.
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    This is excellent, Duane and will help a lot of people!

    Maybe you could help me? I am looking for a way out of town that a group can take to the nearest possible dirt/gravel farm roads.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks.

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    Where's the grass for camping - I just see Blds. & blacktop !
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    Quote Originally Posted by 119240 View Post
    Where's the grass for camping - I just see Blds. & blacktop !
    At the north end of the fairgrounds by the water tower is the main camping area. Circled in red

    camping.jpg
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    The picture is a bit old. I drove by two days ago and the the grass in the area was lush and green with the rain we have had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by story View Post
    At the north end of the fairgrounds by the water tower is the main camping area. Circled in red

    camping.jpg
    The North end by the water Tower is RV camping not the main camping area for tents.....Grass is throughout the grounds...camping areas are as near or as far from the action as you'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 119240 View Post
    Where's the grass for camping - I just see Blds. & blacktop !
    No worries there. This morning I rode (1km) to the fairgrounds to dbl-check. The total grassy area interspersed among the buildings is huge (perhaps 2 rally's worth of tent space). Even the RV area has plenty grass around the pads. All is green. IIRC, tents will be allowed on any grassy spot.

    I'll work up an info-graphic from a Google Earth screenshot (the GoogleEarth view seems to be from when the grass had dried up). The rally is using only the NE section of the fairgrounds, not the southern or western thirds (which are mostly parking lots, buildings, livestock barns etc). And within the rally area, only some of the buildings will be used, so tent camping around the unused buildings will be free of foot traffic.

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    added images: Rally Entrance (riders use Larpenteur north-side entry/exit, not closed 'Main Entrance' on Snelling); grassy camping areas (AFAIK)

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    added info-graphics:
    Como (eastward neighborhood) Zoo/Conservatory/Pool, gas/food/groc
    Saint Anthony Park (westward neighborhood) restaurants, gas, USPS ..indicate ride/meander thru architecturally diverse housing
    Green Line LRT (connects Mpls-StPaul downtowns, opened Jun'14)

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    speed traps well marked here

    Duane,
    Nice job with this. I love it that you have the two main speed traps well marked. At the top of the hill by 280 on Larpenteur there is a LEO more often than not, just as you have marked on the map. Out of town riders will do well to pay attention to this.
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    Thanks for the work and the great info. I'm having a tough time printing off any of the maps; I'm just getting half pages rather than the full map. Anyone have this figured out? TIA
    Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancogan View Post
    Thanks for the work and the great info. I'm having a tough time printing off any of the maps; I'm just getting half pages rather than the full map. Anyone have this figured out? TIA
    Dan, I'm not sure about printing* the JPG info-graphics I'm creating, but a motivation for doing this was that folks could at least download the original-size to their e-device (phone or tablet) for off-line travel use (1200-1600 pixels wide is good enough for that). Goggle/Picasa gives the creator (me) access to the original-size ...however I don't know what size Google/Picasa (or one's OS) gives folks in a download 'Save As' while viewing the album. Which is why I advise "View FULLscreen 100%" ..hoping that the more LCD pixels (LxW) one is using, the larger the download? YMMV? That is why I've typed the pixel dimensions (LxW) of my original somewhere along the bottom of most info-graphics ..so that folks could check if what they download is the original size or not.]
    ~ Perhaps I should park the originals in a Dropbox folder for folks to grab?

    * on 2nd thought, maybe they won't print very well because there's likely not enough pixel density. The maps began as screen-grabs off my 23" monitor (max 1680pix wide, equivalent to a 1.8 megapixel camera), less pixels after cropping extraneous stuff ..so few 'dpi' to print with?

    Duane
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