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    Off Road Training Class

    I'm considering a training class this Spring to learn some off road skills on a GSA. Since I'm in the Southeast, the two I'm considering are the BMW Performance Center and MotoMark1. Both in the Carolina's. Anyone have suggestions or opinions on either.

    My intent is to pick up some basic skills and get comfortable with the big bike off road. Also, off roading to me means fire roads and gravel roads. I have no delusions of back woods or single track riding on the GSA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travman View Post
    My intent is to pick up some basic skills and get comfortable with the big bike off road. Also, off roading to me means fire roads and gravel roads. I have no delusions of back woods or single track riding on the GSA.
    Hey Tom -

    The BMW PC course will expose you to a wider variety of riding conditions and you can take the training on their bikes.

    The MotoMark course is more about gravel roads, water crossings... the usual things found on a forest service road ride. You ride your own bike or you can rent from them.

    If all you plan to ride is gravel roads, three tanks of gas in your bike will be all the training you need.... IMO!

    Seriously, you can find some fairly challenging conditions even on a forest service road. Deep wheel ruts with standing water and mud, erosion damage, large rock gardens, sand, freshly-laid gravel, steep drop-offs... are all things that will increase pucker factor... and worth learning a little about riding over/through.

    To me, the BMW Performance Center offers a better training ground, full of custom-built features that challenge you as much as you want to be challenged... or not. Add-in a lack of fear of dropping and scratching your shiny new adventure bike and I think it's your better option.

    If you want to discuss at further length, feel free to give me a call.

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    Thanks, Ian and I'm leaning in that direction. I put a post on our local board to see if anyone was interested in their 2for1 deal through Feb. We'll see if anyone is up for it. Still have a 3 month or so wait left for the GSA to come in so I have plenty of time to schedule any training.
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    I've done the BMW Performance Riding School off road course on one of their GSA's and highly recommend it. Great facilities, instructors and first class training. At the end of the day my forearms were smoked (and I consider myself in pretty decent shape!) so be prepared. I recently spoke to one of their reps on the phone (Josh) who indicated that they may have a two for one deal (bring a friend and split the price) in the near future so worth checking before you register. As suggested I would pay the nominal extra and use one of their bikes because you will drop it at least once during the day!

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    Thanks for the input. Just signed up for the BMW 2-day class with someone to take advantage of the 2for1 offer. We'll both be using their GSA's for the course and point taken on the physical nature of the course. Since I'm already training for a half-marathon next month, that should help.
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    Off Road Training Class

    Quote Originally Posted by daviesbl View Post
    I've done the BMW Performance Riding School off road course on one of their GSA's and highly recommend it. Great facilities, instructors and first class training. At the end of the day my forearms were smoked (and I consider myself in pretty decent shape!) so be prepared. I recently spoke to one of their reps on the phone (Josh) who indicated that they may have a two for one deal (bring a friend and split the price) in the near future so worth checking before you register. As suggested I would pay the nominal extra and use one of their bikes because you will drop it at least once during the day!
    Drop it once? Everyone in our class dropped it multiple times per day. It was a very wet, red clay course and "slippery as as snot" as the instructors said.

    That said, it was awesome and I highly recommend the course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travman View Post
    Also, off roading to me means fire roads and gravel roads. I have no delusions of back woods or single track riding on the GSA.
    So, you are planning to go off pavement.

    Here's a good place to start. Master these basics and you should be good to go.



    Thanks to Rawhyde for making it available!

    Here is a recent satellite photo of my yard, This is where I practice many of the techniques shown in the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travman View Post
    Thanks for the input. Just signed up for the BMW 2-day class with someone to take advantage of the 2for1 offer. We'll both be using their GSA's for the course and point taken on the physical nature of the course. Since I'm already training for a half-marathon next month, that should help.
    Awesome & good luck with the half marathon. You will be standing up on the pegs for 95% of the riding so remember to work on your core conditioning (along with your forearm/grip strength).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdalland View Post
    So, you are planning to go off pavement.

    Here's a good place to start. Master these basics and you should be good to go.

    Thanks to Rawhyde for making it available!
    I have watched that video, twice, and it was very informative. I used to have a V-Strom but rarely went off road and had one 30 mile gravel road ride in the mountains that was a white knuckle experience because I had no idea what I was doing. In the last few years, I've had my RT on more dirt and gravel than I ever did with the V-Strom (go figure) and have enjoyed it. Now that I have a GSA on order, I want to build the skills to handle the bike off pavement.
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    Reid,
    Looks like you've been practicing. I don't see the Margarita stand from up above. HaHa. Hope to see you and the other Fluffies in Minnesota.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltrider View Post
    Reid,
    Looks like you've been practicing. I don't see the Margarita stand from up above. HaHa. Hope to see you and the other Fluffies in Minnesota.
    Jim
    Hi Jim - Not sure I will make it to the rally...I expect there will be a Turbo Fluffy Margarita stand.

    ride what you've got; enjoy the road you're on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Travman View Post
    Thanks for the input. Just signed up for the BMW 2-day class with someone to take advantage of the 2for1 offer. We'll both be using their GSA's for the course and point taken on the physical nature of the course. Since I'm already training for a half-marathon next month, that should help.
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