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    Happy birthday Grace Hopper

    Went to do a search via Google this morning and saw the mainframe/tubed computer and a woman sitting at a keyboard...wondering what that was about I checked it out

    http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/09/...ter-scientist/

    Would have been her 107th birthday

    Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, computer scientist from the day's before such a thing...developed the COBOL computer language and had a lot to do with how this technology has become so commonplace in our everyday lives. I'm not a big techie/programmer, but have a few as friends

    Also credited with the term "bug" ...it's in the story.

    Here she is talking about difference between nano-second and micro-second...would have loved her as a teacher!




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    Common Business Oriented Language

    Oh, the memories.
    Can you name all the sections required for a compilable program?
    Too long ago for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wezul View Post
    Common Business Oriented Language

    Oh, the memories.
    Can you name all the sections required for a compilable program?
    Too long ago for me.
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    Was lucky enough to attend a Naval Training class by Admiral Grace. It was a pleasure and definite learning experience her ideas on the difference between a leader and a manager were spot on and should be emulated by all business an by the military. Sadly most bureaucracies are too ingrained in their own culture to implement new ideas no matter how old they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hexst View Post
    Was lucky enough to attend a Naval Training class by Admiral Grace. It was a pleasure and definite learning experience her ideas on the difference between a leader and a manager were spot on and should be emulated by all business an by the military. Sadly most bureaucracies are too ingrained in their own culture to implement new ideas no matter how old they are.
    What year was that? I bet she could hold the audience.


    Spent more time reading about her...truly one of a kind.

    And has a ship named in her honor!

    The USS Hopper (DDG-70) is an Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer of the United States Navy, named for the pioneering computer scientist, Rear Admiral "Amazing" Grace Hopper. Launched in JAN 1996


    Side note on management/supervision :

    We had a management style class in the 90's using 12 O'clock High as the model. Gregory Peck's character was the preferred method over the former Squadron Leader...My group of "independent" linemen I had just inherited were called the Lepper Colony by my counterparts! I came in to class with a bomber jacket and a hat I got from a former retired employee that was a WWII bomber pilot...we had fun with that for weeks! The professional hired trainer wasn't as amused as I was

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    Quote Originally Posted by wezul View Post
    Common Business Oriented Language

    Oh, the memories.
    Can you name all the sections required for a compilable program?
    Too long ago for me.
    Identification Division.
    Environment Division.
    Data Division.
    Procedure Division.

    I never used it professionally, but COBOL was my first programming language.
    The "Miracle of Modern Technology" is that we get anything done using it...

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    Was in the 70's . The FAA management school used the 12 o'clock High movie. Her lecture/ ideas hit home better than the movie to me, because the FAA class indicated all managers were leaders where she proposed good leaders got people to do what they really didn't want to in a way they were proud of their accomplishments, whereas managers implemented ideas and doctrine more like administers. She contended good managers were not necessarily good leaders and good leaders were not always good managers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hexst View Post
    Was in the 70's . The FAA management school used the 12 o'clock High movie. Her lecture/ ideas hit home better than the movie to me, because the FAA class indicated all managers were leaders where she proposed good leaders got people to do what they really didn't want to in a way they were proud of their accomplishments, whereas managers implemented ideas and doctrine more like administers. She contended good managers were not necessarily good leaders and good leaders were not always good managers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tposton View Post
    Identification Division.
    Environment Division.
    Data Division.
    Procedure Division.

    I never used it professionally, but COBOL was my first programming language.
    I first learned FORTRAN in college in the late 60's...FORTRAN II, if I remember correctly. Then took a course in ALGOL and finally COBOL. I started my career writing financial systems in COBOL, wrote thousands and thousands of lines of COBOL, on punch cards. Forty years later it was distributed systems in SQL, C++, and Java on UNIX systems and PCs using advanced IDEs. Quite a few changes over the years. I always liked writing code...guess I'm just a geek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    But who's the Boss? And, isn't that always the issue.

    Yes, that is always the issue.

    I once worked for a person who hired a consultant that wanted someone else, other than my boss, to provide "functional supervision".

    I related the story about "a man can not serve two masters" and that ended that discussion.

    During my working life I worked for some great bosses and some of the "A hole" type. The last one called every Friday at 5:15 to see if I was still there. After 6 weeks I told him he was wasting his time because I didn't duck out of work early on Friday or any other day.

    He stopped calling. But in 2 years I only saw him face to face twice and we only talked when he thought I had screwed up somehow. He was usually wrong but didn't like admitting it.

    One of the reasons why early retirement was a blessing. Didn't tell him I was leaving. Filled out the retirement papers. When he found out I was leaving he wanted to know why and I told him. He didn't like it much, but he asked.

    Lucky for me I had the best group of people working for me. Made my life very easy and made me look good. But no one could abuse my staff. They could yell, scream, cuss and do whatever else they wanted to me and I would politely listen till they ran out of air. I had broad shoulders and thick skin.

    I worked for one person for almost 15 years. He led by example. Was always supportive. Helped me see the difference between problems and what he called "bumps in the road". Learned a lot by watching him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tposton View Post
    Identification Division.
    Environment Division.
    Data Division.
    Procedure Division.

    I never used it professionally, but COBOL was my first programming language.
    OH!
    Weisenheimer!!!

    Nice

    I don't get the charge I used to get out of cranking code and twiddling bits.
    But as has been said, pays for stuff.

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