Last edited by rockbottom; 06-09-2014 at 06:49 PM.
Not the first-
40+ years ago while still on the M/C learner permit, I was pulled over by a registry officer and was harassed for a number of things including too many keys on my M/C keyring
I'd let it go.
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I am in my second career now and working for the U.S. government. I can tell you that complaints are one of the things that get a lot of attention by management. Basically everyone in the "food chain" gets a lot visibility on addressing any complaints received by an office. Just be factual and professional. My office is required to document the complaint, investigate and respond to the complainant. So have at it. At the end, you might not get a response that makes you feel like they did much but they will have done more than might think.
Like Selyab said, if you felt you were done wrong or mistreated, file the complaint. Now that being said, my last assignment at the police department was in the office of professional standards which handled complaints just like that. Tickets, although NOT your complaint were not complaints and advised to argue that in court.
What Selyab said is correct, you'll also quite likely also be informed of the result. But know this going in about the result you may get (at least from my or most agencies) is that your complaint was:
- Unfounded: The incident meaning the encounter or the stop never occurred.
- Exonerated: Which means it occurred and occurred the way you reported but the officer followed documented agency procedures or operating rules.
- Sustained: Which means there was a violation of agency procedures or operating rules. You will quite likely NOT be told what disciplinary action was taken.
- Not Sustained: The was not enough evidence present to show that a work operating procedure or rule was violated or not violated. This does not clear the employee.
- Exceptionally closed: The employee terminated their own employment or was terminated before and investigation was complete and could not be disciplined, no longer working there.
A word on not sustained. It means evidence, not statement. A companion's statement who may have been with you carries the same "weight" as an officer who may have been with the accused employee, no more and no less. Most often complaints are "not sustained" as it is basically one persons word against another's.
Good for you, rockbottom! It would have been easier to just let it go but making the effort may be making a difference.
I suspect somebody in the National Park Service will be interested enough to read your note carefully and take appropriate steps, if any. Park rangers have a carefully crafted image (Smokey the Bear) and one bad apple will harm that image.
"Be yourself. Everybody else is already taken." -Oscar Wilde
That being said, you have composed a well-written letter detailing your 'issues' with this official. I think you are more than justified lodging your complaint, as his attitude is in serious need of redirection.
You did the right thing.
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If it were me - and it actually was some time back going through Yellowstone, not exactly the same but very close - I would [and did] ask the ranger his name, write it down, then ask to speak to his supervisor. As is the case with law enforcement, they are REQUIRED to contact their supervisor for you to voice your complaint.
Someone already said when things like this happen, the WILL happen again if you allow it without filing a complaint.
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My math is horrible, I need a calculator to substantiate my statement. I have driven on average 80K a year for over thirty years. Everything, from pickups to tractor-trailers. I don't even count the time on a motorcycle because that's my time.
Today, I was covering for a friend that was sick and he hauls snow. I guess this load was 40k+ as the truck was a dog and spiking jerked me around pretty good. 3rd low from intersections and I could hear a good bark so I knew I was heavy.
Coming over an overpass, my lane, right hand side, somebody decided it was a good time to pull in front. Binders on, horn full tilt and hung on. Been there, done that, never ended well.
RCMP on my left saw it all.
I did the road rage thing with the horn and the lights. Seconds later, blue and red behind me. I pulled over. I was mad. I went to get out of the truck and the officer pointed at me and said, "stay in your truck".
He went back to his car, a few minutes later, "Driver's License, Registration, Log Book". Nothing pleasant in his tone.
My paperwork is good and he asks me if I knew why he pulled me over. I said, "No". He said if I hadn't pulled my "high school" stunt with the road rage, he would taken the other driver instead for "failure to yield oncoming". Then he said, "I will take an angry driver and make them sit on the side road over stupid. Stupid are easy to catch, you aren't and you are more dangerous."
Wow. The boys with the badge have a tough job and I have to say, after my experience today, I'm going to let them give me s--t and just take it.
Back to my first paragraph, I still have a lot to learn.
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"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him."
Since you understand that, the world is a good place. Of course, you could have called your lawyer and made the officer waste a few days to prove his wisdom to a judge. That may have provided some sense of moral victory to you and allowed your lawyer to buy nicer Christmas gifts for his wife and girlfriend.
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