Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 23

Thread: Bead Breaker

  1. #1
    '92 R100GS '81 R100/t brittrunyon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Embudo, New Mexico
    Posts
    375

    Bead Breaker

    BeadPro ~ Tire Bead Breaker and Lever Tool Set by Motion Pro
    http://www.advdesigns.com/betibebrandl.html

    Anyone have experience with this item...........?
    1992 R100 GS, 1981 R100/t, 2007 F 650 GS

    No Rules Photography at http://brittrunyon.com/
    My riding videos @ http://vimeo.com/user2721333/videos

  2. #2
    Benchwrenching PGlaves's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    "Big Bend" TX
    Posts
    8,645
    Not me, but I'll be very interested in any feedback from folks who have experience. When we travel I haul around a big C clamp but if these work they would save a lot of space/weight.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Posts
    76
    They may work fine as bead breakers, but they look too wide and short to make good tire irons. Every demo I have seen of them they are capably changing a tubed dual sport tire - easy as pie to bead break. I've never seen a demo on a big tubeless tire. If I carried a set as bead breakers, I'd still carry three MotionPro irons for install duty. The set that goes in my load-out for long distance and isolated destinations is the BestRest BeadBrakR. Whatever you decide to pack, change a challenging tire with it at home before you strike out counting on it to save your bacon on the roadside.

  4. #4
    Proud Veteran SteveAikens's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Clovis, NM
    Posts
    933
    Personally, I'm more interested in not having a flat than how to break the bead when I do....
    Nom de Plume:
    Steve Aikens, Clovis, NM
    BMW MOA #6218
    IBA# 442

  5. #5
    Benchwrenching PGlaves's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    "Big Bend" TX
    Posts
    8,645
    Quote Originally Posted by SteveAikens View Post
    Personally, I'm more interested in not having a flat than how to break the bead when I do....
    How's that working for you?

    Voni went 500K miles before her first flat, and then had three in two weeks.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves

  6. #6
    Benchwrenching PGlaves's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    "Big Bend" TX
    Posts
    8,645
    I wrote the long version in a column in the ON. I'll repeat the short version here. Memorial Day, riding a few mild sweepers in Missouri Voni got a flat rear tire. I found the leak was between the brass and rubber in the stem. Tubeless tire of course. I had a plug kit. Good luck.

    I managed to find an Orscheln Farm Store open for 15 more minutes when I got there. I bought two tire stems, two tire irons, and a big C clamp. Back to her bike, beside the road I broke the bead on one side, and installed a new stem. By this time a nearby farmer got curious. He brought me his air tank to refill the tire.

    As we started to ride away she said it was still flat. It wasn't. It was the front tire this time. Same defect, same bike, same spot, same time. Odds??

    So I repeated the process using my second new valve stem, and on to home we rode.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves

  7. #7
    Proud Veteran SteveAikens's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Clovis, NM
    Posts
    933
    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    How's that working for you?.
    I'll be able to answer that after I go into the garage....
    Nom de Plume:
    Steve Aikens, Clovis, NM
    BMW MOA #6218
    IBA# 442

  8. #8
    '92 R100GS '81 R100/t brittrunyon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Embudo, New Mexico
    Posts
    375
    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    I wrote the long version in a column in the ON.
    I remember the article......

    I carry a spare valve stem after having one break while in Honduras many years back,
    pretty much guarantees it won't happen again.......
    1992 R100 GS, 1981 R100/t, 2007 F 650 GS

    No Rules Photography at http://brittrunyon.com/
    My riding videos @ http://vimeo.com/user2721333/videos

  9. #9
    Back in the Saddle mcmxcivrs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    1,749
    I have a set of those bead breakers that I just recently added to my tire kit on my F800GS. Have not yet had a chance to test them out though. I plan to do so on my next tire change if I don't have to do so sooner (fingers crossed). I had them ordered before a trip I did in August to the Bee Cee Beemers rally in Nakusp and could have tested them then, but they had not yet arrived before I left.





    They do appear to be well made and sturdy. I expect they would be just fine as levers too as the ones I currently use for roadside repairs are actually shorter in length. I was able to remove the notoriously stiff K-60 just fine with those to swap the tube.
    Ed Miller, Calgary, AB
    2008 K1200GT, 2009 F800GS
    I can't wait to retire and have a fixed income. The one I have now is always broke.

  10. #10
    Benchwrenching PGlaves's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    "Big Bend" TX
    Posts
    8,645
    Quote Originally Posted by mcmxcivrs View Post
    I have a set of those bead breakers that I just recently added to my tire kit on my F800GS. Have not yet had a chance to test them out though. I plan to do so on my next tire change if I don't have to do so sooner (fingers crossed). I had them ordered before a trip I did in August to the Bee Cee Beemers rally in Nakusp and could have tested them then, but they had not yet arrived before I left.



    They do appear to be well made and sturdy. I expect they would be just fine as levers too as the ones I currently use for roadside repairs are actually shorter in length. I was able to remove the notoriously stiff K-60 just fine with those to swap the tube.
    Ed, do you have an opinion as to how well they would work to break the bead on a tubeless tire?
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves

  11. #11
    Back in the Saddle mcmxcivrs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Calgary
    Posts
    1,749
    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Ed, do you have an opinion as to how well they would work to break the bead on a tubeless tire?
    I would expect just the same as on my tube type tires on my GS as they have the safety bead on the rim just as tubeless rims do. The only difference mandating the tube is the standard type spoke rims on the F800GS. Once I give them a try, I'll follow up with a comment on the performance. I have to replace tires on both my bikes this winter, so will be able to test them on both the tube type GS wheels and the tubeless GT ones. I have a new set of Excel wheels coming for the GS to accept whatever new tires I choose for it, but will be dismounting the worn out K60s from the original wheels anyway.
    Ed Miller, Calgary, AB
    2008 K1200GT, 2009 F800GS
    I can't wait to retire and have a fixed income. The one I have now is always broke.

  12. #12
    Benchwrenching PGlaves's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    "Big Bend" TX
    Posts
    8,645
    I'll stay tuned!
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves

  13. #13
    Survivor akbeemer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Land of the Big Sky
    Posts
    3,842
    I guess the key point will be are they worth carrying as opposed to relying on such techniques as using the center stand or using a 2x4 arrangement or just relying on dumb luck. I've never had a flat since I was 16 and riding my brothers CB450 Honda Blackhawk in 1967. Of our six bikes, five have tubless tires and I hope to be able to fix a flat with a plug. If I need to break a bead because of a rare but possible situation as Paul described, or a flat occurs on our single tube bike, I guess I'm using the hope as a method technique. I hope I can break the bead... or I hope there is help to be had. I hope....
    Last edited by akbeemer; 09-28-2013 at 01:04 AM.
    Kevin Huddy
    Intrepid Incompetent
    Tm Pterodactyl MT Outpost

  14. #14
    Benchwrenching PGlaves's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    "Big Bend" TX
    Posts
    8,645
    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    I guess the key point will be are they worth carrying as opposed to relying on such techniques as using the center stand or using a 2x4 arrangement or just relying on dumb luck. I've never had a flat since I was 16 and riding my brothers CB450 Honda Blackhawk in 1967. Of our six bikes, five have tubless tires and I hope to be able to fix a flat with a plug. If I need to break a bead because of a rare but possible situation as Paul described, or a flat occurs on our single tube bike, I guess I'm using the hope as a method technique. I hope I can break the bead... or I hope there is help to be had. I hope....
    Good points. I tend to carry that stuff when we travel for the summer because, among other reasons, I have, on occasion bought tires and mounted them myself in a campground. I prefer to let a dealer mount them, but when traveling the need for a tire doesn't always match the location of a BMW dealer, and I have had mixed results with other brand dealerships. Sometimes the path of least resistance is to just buy a tire and do it myself.
    Paul Glaves - "Big Bend", Texas U.S.A
    "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that will allow a solution." - Bertrand Russell
    http://www.bigbend.net/users/glaves

  15. #15
    Proud Veteran SteveAikens's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Clovis, NM
    Posts
    933
    Quote Originally Posted by akbeemer View Post
    I guess the key point will be are they worth carrying as opposed to relying on such techniques as using the center stand or using a 2x4 arrangement or just relying on dumb luck.
    Personally, Since I started riding tubeless tires on my bikes, I no longer carry tire tools on either of my bikes [both RTs]. I carry a Stop~N~Go plug kit, gummy worms and an air pump. I'm fortunate to be able to say that I've only had one deflation when traveling - with tubeless tires. It was in the middle of nowhere, MI - where I picked-up a pretty good size bolt that apparently was flipped upright by my front tire. This was pretty late at night and it was pretty easy to feel the deflation. I got off to the shoulder, located the bolt, pulled it, plugged it and was on my way in about 20 minutes of fumbling around in the dark. That's when I learned carrying only a mini-mag flashlight was not a bright idea.

    Many years ago, I had a flat on my R75/5. I used the center stand to break the bead. I had a guy in a pickup truck stop to help and I'll tell you, I sure was grateful. There was no possibility I could have managed breaking the bead myself like that. If I was on a tube tire, I'd probably consider carrying something to break the bead but I think just being able to plug a tire is more reasonable under normal conditions.

    And Paul - as of yesterday, it's still working out great for me..... Are you and Voni planning on riding over to Dallas?
    Nom de Plume:
    Steve Aikens, Clovis, NM
    BMW MOA #6218
    IBA# 442

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •