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    96 K1100LT true maintenance schedule

    am a new owner to this bike and figuring it out maintenance wise. So far it seems pretty easy just time consuming. I am concerned about the major greasings that are said to be required. The dealer wants me to do an annual 6 hour deal at $91 and hour. Supposedly I am supposed to grease the input shafts every year. I am using this bike on the Florida east coast right at the ocean and I am riding it in town so I am using the clutch alot. How often should I drop that transmission to take care of this issue? Also is it a good idea to just not use the clutch? It's pretty easy to hift without it..thanks

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    With a good high moly content sticky grease (see Gudardog Moly GD525 for example) a 40K interval seems to work well on that model. Given your salty coastal air, I certainly wouldn't go beyond two years regardless of mileage.
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    DO NOT SHIFT THESE TRASMISSIONS WITHOUT THE CLUTCH!!!!!

    Nothing will destroy these transmissions quicker than shifting them without the clutch!

    These are not like your typical Japanese transmissions. When shifted without the clutch, you will rapidly round off the shift dogs that connect the gears to the slider that connects the gear to the shaft. When rounded, instead of sucking the gear and slider together, it will start pushing them apart, bending the shift fork, denting the shift drum, and possibly shattering the shift fork roller. It will put lots of metal into the oil and bearings. It will start popping out of gear with increasing regularity. To have it repaired at a shop with new parts will cost you well in excess of $1000!

    DON'T DO IT!!!


    Clutch spline greasing is more of a mileage thing than a calender thing (your dealer should have told you that). 30-40,000 miles is realistic unless you start having issues with stiff downshifting sooner than that.



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    OK OK OK I waon't You scared me to death..
    Quote Originally Posted by 98lee View Post
    DO NOT SHIFT THESE TRASMISSIONS WITHOUT THE CLUTCH!!!!!

    Nothing will destroy these transmissions quicker than shifting them without the clutch!

    These are not like your typical Japanese transmissions. When shifted without the clutch, you will rapidly round off the shift dogs that connect the gears to the slider that connects the gear to the shaft. When rounded, instead of sucking the gear and slider together, it will start pushing them apart, bending the shift fork, denting the shift drum, and possibly shattering the shift fork roller. It will put lots of metal into the oil and bearings. It will start popping out of gear with increasing regularity. To have it repaired at a shop with new parts will cost you well in excess of $1000!

    DON'T DO IT!!!


    Clutch spline greasing is more of a mileage thing than a calender thing (your dealer should have told you that). 30-40,000 miles is realistic unless you start having issues with stiff downshifting sooner than that.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 98lee View Post
    DO NOT SHIFT THESE TRASMISSIONS WITHOUT THE CLUTCH!!!!!

    Nothing will destroy these transmissions quicker than shifting them without the clutch!

    These are not like your typical Japanese transmissions. When shifted without the clutch, you will rapidly round off the shift dogs that connect the gears to the slider that connects the gear to the shaft. When rounded, instead of sucking the gear and slider together, it will start pushing them apart, bending the shift fork, denting the shift drum, and possibly shattering the shift fork roller. It will put lots of metal into the oil and bearings. It will start popping out of gear with increasing regularity. To have it repaired at a shop with new parts will cost you well in excess of $1000!

    DON'T DO IT!!!


    Clutch spline greasing is more of a mileage thing than a calender thing (your dealer should have told you that). 30-40,000 miles is realistic unless you start having issues with stiff downshifting sooner than that.




    So I guess the 150K miles of clutchless shifting on my K100RT and 80K miles of clutchless shifting on my K1100LT with no problems says differently. If you are smooth and can match rpm fairly well its not a problem to shift without the clutch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridealot View Post
    So I guess the 150K miles of clutchless shifting on my K100RT and 80K miles of clutchless shifting on my K1100LT with no problems says differently. If you are smooth and can match rpm fairly well its not a problem to shift without the clutch.

    Tom,

    What YOU do with YOUR bike is YOUR business.

    You will always be able to find a couple of people who have survived years of playing Russian Roulette, whether by luck or by a system. I would not recommend it.

    I have rebuilt several of these transmissions with this exact problem. The owners almost all admitted to "occasionally" shifting without the clutch. Now, admittedly, none had the skill that you must have at always matching RPMs, but they all said it worked "for awhile", so they saw no problem with it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 98lee View Post
    Tom,

    What YOU do with YOUR bike is YOUR business.

    Oh Ok, gee thanks!

    I just thought your huge screaming letters of pending doom were a tad bit over the top. Thought the OP might want to hear someone elses real world experiences with clutchless shifting these bikes. Sorry if that upsets you.
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    Tom,

    Does that mean if Leftturn's tranny starts popping out of gear, he should send it to you and you'll fix it?



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