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    Motels?

    I'm thinking of going to the Rally with the wife. She isn't into roughing it so are considering staying in a motel. Is there a list of motels that are in the area?

    Steve from Sacramento CA

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    I do not have a list of Hotels/Motels in Spokane, however; I have a reservation at Motel 6, they probably still have a vacancy.

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    Re: Motels?

    Originally posted by Unregistered
    I'm thinking of going to the Rally with the wife. She isn't into roughing it so are considering staying in a motel. Is there a list of motels that are in the area?

    Steve from Sacramento CA
    Last year the Visitor's Bureau setup a hotel booking system, like most other conventions. I am presuming that this will happen again. You can check out the links at http://www.bmwmoa.org/rally04/index.htm and those have local info if you want to book your own.
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    The only negative feelings I've had following any of the many rallies I've attended come from the Moaners and Groaners who want me to feel as awful as they did even though I had a marvelous time.
    Back in 1970 I attended my first ever motorcycle "rally", the Pikes Peak Tour. I recall standing around the parking lot of the motel looking over people's shoulders and wondering where the action was "at". Here were riders who had obviously come from far away, yet many seemed to know each other and were renewing old acquaintances. I felt that old M&G feeling.
    It only took me one more day to figure it out. You wanna know were the action is? It's wherever YOU make it happen. Not the other guy. You.
    You want better weather? Plan a rally where YOU can be responsible for the weather. You want better camping? YOU offer to arrange the camping. You want better seminars? YOU volunteer to manage the seminars. You want a better sound system at the awards ceremony? YOU make it happen.
    Hundreds of your fellow BMW riders are already involved in planning to make another grand rally happen. Get involved, volunteer your talents, and you'll discover the most amazing thing: suddenly the rally begins to look much better--at least your part.
    I'm not just blowing up the muffler here, I'll be busy at the rally myself. And all those other rally volunteers have my gratitude and admiration, wherever in the country it happens, and whatever the venue. I only wish we could extend the International rally another couple of days.

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    What Dave said.

    My dad taught me that if you don't like the way something is done, get to be in charge and run it differently.

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    Good points by pmdave.

    It can be tough for me to ride into any group of people who all seem to know each other. I don't feel comfortable "butting in." They don't know me and have their own connections going.

    Volunteering solves both sides of the problem. It's an excuse to spend time with others and for them to get to know me.

    Especially with an all-volunteer group, I feel I will never be "part of the group" until I am a volunteer. Whether I pay $35 or $3500 to get in, I am an outsider to them. Being there is just being there. Being part of the group requires pitching in.

    IMO it's that way in every club, service organization, church and charity.

    That said, there can be legitimacy to some gripes. Some people seem only to be able to express dissatisfaction by complaint. Others express dissatisfaction by suggesting cures. Others yet work to cure what the don't like by volunteering to help effect change.

    Any organization, if it wants to prosper in the long run, has to be as attuned to the message of all three of the above members.

    Sometimes the non-participating griper's point is more valid or more important than the change the participating volunteer is trying to effect. Sometimes the participating volunteer has a private agenda or belief that drives him; that vision may not be in the long-term interest of the club.

    Other times that drive by that volunteer, because he is so committed, creates a or strengthens a core value of the club. An example: A club has a moderately sucessful annual outing. A member decides it would be fun to add a clambake on saturday afternoon. He heads it up, gets it running. It becomes an annual signature event that draws higher and higher attendance to what becomes the clubs Annual Clambake.

    But the clambake sparkplug might have started thinking about it all by hearing some other guy gripe about how boring the last event seemed.

    On the other hand, that volunteer may have had another agenda; to make the outing alcohol-free. By zeel and enthusiasm he could gain position where he controlled that decision and impact the outing in a whole different way, particularly if the board was weak and easily swayed. It's easier to give in to zeel than to listen and fix a gripe.

    It's hard to listen to complainers and it's easy to let volunteers plunge in. But the club board has to carefully consider the message of both before moving ahead.
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    Spokane

    Those who are belly aching about Spokane are stupid. Spokane is a great town. It's a big town with a small town feel. I will be riding out form Iowa through Yellowstone. The on the way home, I will be taking 150 miles of dirt(a buddy from Spokane who rides a GS knows the way) to Glacier and take Hwy 2 across Montana and ND. What a blast...

    If anyone wants to ride along, let me know.

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    Re: Spokane - not for me

    Originally posted by Ole Yeller
    Those who are belly aching about Spokane are stupid. Spokane is a great town. It's a big town with a small town feel.
    No gripes about the location from me, except the long, long, LONG ride out. So I will be using this years Vac time for the RA rally in West Virginia. Not a gripe but it meets two desires of mine - 1) In the wilderness and 2) Not between 4th of July and Labor Day. The fact that it's a days ride from New England is also a plus.

    MarkF

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    Originally posted by gsitts

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    It's hard to listen to complainers and it's easy to let volunteers plunge in. But the club board has to carefully consider the message of both before moving ahead.
    And then there is the classic line about volunteering:

    No good deed goes unpunished.

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    I hope that my zeal to attend the rally in Spokane is not excessive, but the wife and I are looking forward to the ride out west. We have not been west on a bike for almost thirty years and have never attended a rally. A couple of questions:
    1. Are there camping facilities at the rally site or do we need to make reservations elsewhere?
    2. When will one be able to sign-up for the festivities?
    3. What is the average age of the rally participants?
    I as sure I will have more dumb questions as time progresses. That is all for now.
    Jim Kane

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    I'm staying at the Quality Inn a few miles east of the rally. There are still lots of rooms available in the area but I wouldn't wait too long. The rally site is on the east end of Spokane so I would look for rooms in the "Valley" east of the rally or along the Interstate east of the rally.

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    Originally posted by jentine
    I hope that my zeal to attend the rally in Spokane is not excessive, but the wife and I are looking forward to the ride out west. We have not been west on a bike for almost thirty years and have never attended a rally. A couple of questions:
    1. Are there camping facilities at the rally site or do we need to make reservations elsewhere?
    2. When will one be able to sign-up for the festivities?
    3. What is the average age of the rally participants?
    I as sure I will have more dumb questions as time progresses. That is all for now.
    Jim Kane
    Jim,

    There will be camping at the rally. To be honest with 5-6000 campers there are times when the facilites are put to the test. Having said this I must be very lucky (or do stuff at wierd hours) because in all of the Nationals I have attended I have never been inconvenienced by the crowd, in fact I love it.

    Secure on-line registration will be available in a few weeks. Watch this forum for an announcement.

    The average of our membership is around 47. I would bet the rally reflects this. Best quote ever heard at a Nat'l was in Redmond when a 17 yr stated: "You guys are just like my friends, only a little older." Party on Garth.



    As far as riding out west, it *is* incredible.

    See you in Spokane.

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    Indians vs Beemers

    It looks like the Spokane Indians will be playing the Eugene Emeralds along side us in the stadium located on the fairgrounds. A four night homestand.
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    I think I have a few answers:
    That's not an old quarry (like you find in the East) it's as active gravel operation. The river is very close so the ground water is "right there" when you dig a shallow hole.

    The view you show is looking to the South, likely from a plane that is just above the little airport North of the fairgounds (starts with an F but the name escapes me at the moment).

    The rail yard is BNSF, the Empire Builder Amtrak runs through it. It is very active.

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    Re: re: Indians -and- Beemers

    Greetings,

    I do not have all the answers (only the Rally Chair does) however here is what I do know.

    Originally posted by SlashFiveTourer

    I can see where the ballpark is located - upper right corner in the aerial view below. Looks like that stadium holds a couple of thousand fans and that parking lot will be packed with vehicles during the Spokane Indians homestand 13-17 July against the Eugene Emeralds.
    a) Will Spokane BMW rallygoers get reduced admission rates to the games if we show the wristband? Discounts on stuff like team jerseys and caps?
    Excellent question on the team gear. I believe there will be discount on tickets for Thursday's game. There are a few places where you can take in the game with tables and service. We may be offering advance sales through the website after we have rally registration on-line April 1.

    b) Are all of the games being played at night?
    Not sure, I know Thursday is an evening / night game.

    c) Can rally organizers tell us where the "quiet camping area" will be in relation to the ballpark - is it in the area above the centre and right fields of the ballpark?
    I am not aware of the exact layout of the grounds. Jackie Hughes, Rally Chair will be posting this information in the near future.

    d) What "class" of camping will be allowed in that large football-sized field to the left of the huge parking lot in the photograph..."quiet", "normal", "the LOUD crowd???"
    See above.

    e) I'm not sure just how old this aerial photo of the Spokane Fairgrounds is (it's taken from their own website and I saw it first posted here on the MOA Forum on the 16th of August 2003 by "Unregistered") so perhaps someone familiar with this rally site can let us know what the present status is of the trainyard at the top of the photograph: What railroad operates through there (I'm a train buff!) and does the shunting yard operate 24 hours a day?
    That photo is four years old. I do not know if the trains operate 24hrs.

    e) What's the story with those old quarries filled with standing water - are they still there?

    The Fairground website has a map graphic but it's kind of hard to read for an oldtimer. This is where the original aerial photograph of the Spokane Fairgrounds can be found.
    The photos I have seen (from ground level) show a more developed site including more grass.

    Here is a better overhead photo.

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