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    AlanK
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    Unhappy How do I keep a dry bottom?

    HELP!!!
    I turned 65 this year. I have been riding since I was 20. This is my 4th BMW since 2002; currently a 95' R100RT. In 45 years, I still have not found a way to keep my bottom dry while riding in temps above 75F, from late spring thru early fall months. The furthest I can ride is 75-80 miles before I can't sit any longer because my bottom is itchy and irritated, and my pants are wet. I have tried a Bead Rider on my BMW comfort seat; I have tried wearing 65% polyester/30% cotton pants instead of jeans; I just tried LD Comfort shorts - no help; I bought a used Russell Day-Long last fall (comfy) and tried that in combination with the LD Comfort shorts - still got a wet, itchy bottom at 92F last week @ 78 miles. The only combination I haven't tried yet is the Bead Rider on the Russell with LD Comfort.
    People can ride 100's of miles in a day -- how do they do it? I've almost reached the point where I DON'T want to ride because I can't.
    What else can I try?
    What are the best pants to wear?
    An article written by David Hough in NW Sound Rider says to wear a riding suit and keep it closed in hot weather -- how does he keep his bottom dry? I don't care if the rest of me is sweating.

    to [B]bmwrider 88[B]
    I haven't worn cotton underwear for the past 7 years. I only wear Duluth Trading's Buck Naked Diamond knit performance nylon wicking boxer briefs. I wore them when working outdoors everyday. Even they don't help when I ride.
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    If the LD Comfort shorts, Russell seat with bead rider doesn't do it, I'm not sure anything out there will work for you.
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    and always wear LD comfort pants or shorts (so it wasn't enough said!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelliott View Post
    btw, the heat seater becomes useless with this seat. good for summer, not for winter if you want that feature to work.

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    Alan, a lot of guys use talcum powder and other similar powders, but you've probably already tried that. Sounds like a ventilation issue. Might want to bring your pants to the tailor and have maybe six 1/2" or 3/4" (gusset type) holes sewn into the crotch area. I suspect this might help. I might add that a beadrider is critical to getting air under the seat area.

    A few years ago, I purchased some riding pants that absolutely did not breath. I hated the things, so I found that I didn't ride. Don't give up. Try the holes idea.
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    I'm not sure that you can with full riding gear. Products like Desitin used for infants before the sweat occurs will keep the sweat at bay for a time. If you have some military friends that have spent time in the jungle, they had come creative ways to keep the irritation down but again- it didn't involve full riding gear.
    Good luck.
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    Open your fly while riding for ventilation. If you ride a GS, stand up on the pegs to get some air flowing in there.

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    Monkey Butt

    is the [un]common name for the malady which you've described.

    While it might not seem too obvious, you could definitely, without question, gain some measure of comfort simply by changing your underwear...

    and by that I don't mean take extras along on each ride, but rather, ditch the cotton, and step up to some shorts of some other fabric. Cotton not only doesn't breathe, it also traps moisture. And this, my friend, is THE source of the problem. It's no big leap to know you are wearing old style cotton undies here.

    In the outdoor enthusiast world, there was a trend of going to "modern" fabrics, designed to "wick" moisture away from the body. (remember "layers" back in the
    70s/80s/90s?) Polypropylene (nasty stuff) was hot for a minute, as was silk, and microfabrics of various blends. The current "trend" is going back to wool! Yep. Extra thin, super light weight merino wool is enjoying a comeback currently, in the realm of underwear, socks, and lightweight long johns IE: base layers. SO throw out all that old cotton underwear and step into the 21st century with some WOOL!!


    Here are a couple informative links from Icebreaker brand Merino Wool sellers. Take the time to look at these. This is not BS.

    http://us.icebreaker.com/Why-Icebrea...ino,en,pg.html

    http://us.icebreaker.com/Why-Icebrea...orm,en,pg.html

    The point is to let "everything" breathe - which traditional cotton underwear doesn't allow, and also to wick moisture away from your body - which really makes a HUGE comfort (and/or lifesaving) difference in cold weather, as well as being beneficial in hot weather.

    I see a couple folks mentioned certain brands of riding gear/wear... Check into it, or check a local bicycle shop, or outdoor "outfitter" to see what they may have for you. The "shorts" I wear are Calvin Klein- in either a cotton/nylon/spandex blend, or nylon/spandex. These are admittedly expensive BUT COMFY. They come in ALL kinds of shapes, IE: trunks, briefs, etc. I see Icebreaker underwear is on sale, tho... I'm gonna order a pair and see how they work for me.

    Monkey Butt?
    Say bye bye now.
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    You mention you wear jeans. Jeans don't breath (unless you install the ventilated crotch that was suggested).
    I also sweat, a lot. And I live and ride in Texas where it's always hot. I've found the best solution for me is LD shorts under Olympia ventilated pants on a beadrider seat. And every time I slow down I stand up to let some air flow through the pants to speed evaporation. I also, sometimes, spread Vaseline in sensitive areas that tend to get a rash in the heat.
    With this setup I can ride all day in 100+ heat and not get the dreaded Monkey Butt.
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    Oh the jungle

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    I'm not sure that you can with full riding gear. Products like Desitin used for infants before the sweat occurs will keep the sweat at bay for a time. If you have some military friends that have spent time in the jungle, they had come creative ways to keep the irritation down but again- it didn't involve full riding gear.
    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwrider88 View Post
    is the [un]common name for the malady which you've described.

    While it might not seem too obvious, you could definitely, without question, gain some measure of comfort simply by changing your underwear...

    and by that I don't mean take extras along on each ride, but rather, ditch the cotton, and step up to some shorts of some other fabric. Cotton not only doesn't breathe, it also traps moisture. And this, my friend, is THE source of the problem. It's no big leap to know you are wearing old style cotton undies here.

    In the outdoor enthusiast world, there was a trend of going to "modern" fabrics, designed to "wick" moisture away from the body. (remember "layers" back in the
    70s/80s/90s?) Polypropylene (nasty stuff) was hot for a minute, as was silk, and microfabrics of various blends. The current "trend" is going back to wool! Yep. Extra thin, super light weight merino wool is enjoying a comeback currently, in the realm of underwear, socks, and lightweight long johns IE: base layers. SO throw out all that old cotton underwear and step into the 21st century with some WOOL!!


    Here are a couple informative links from Icebreaker brand Merino Wool sellers. Take the time to look at these. This is not BS.

    http://us.icebreaker.com/Why-Icebrea...ino,en,pg.html

    http://us.icebreaker.com/Why-Icebrea...orm,en,pg.html

    The point is to let "everything" breathe - which traditional cotton underwear doesn't allow, and also to wick moisture away from your body - which really makes a HUGE comfort (and/or lifesaving) difference in cold weather, as well as being beneficial in hot weather.

    I see a couple folks mentioned certain brands of riding gear/wear... Check into it, or check a local bicycle shop, or outdoor "outfitter" to see what they may have for you. The "shorts" I wear are Calvin Klein- in either a cotton/nylon/spandex blend, or nylon/spandex. These are admittedly expensive BUT COMFY. They come in ALL kinds of shapes, IE: trunks, briefs, etc. I see Icebreaker underwear is on sale, tho... I'm gonna order a pair and see how they work for me.

    Monkey Butt?
    Say bye bye now.

    I haven't worn cotton underwear for the past 7 years. I only wear Duluth Trading's Buck Naked Diamond knit performance nylon wicking boxer briefs. I wore them when working outdoors everyday. Even they don't help when I ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelliott View Post
    W/O a doubt the best seat I ever owned. I let it go when I sold my RT to Ted Moyer and now wish I had it back.

    Did the Redmond 1000 on that seat thru some of the hottest parts of the country, WY, UT, ID, Eastern OR and never even thought about my bottom being hot. A non-issue
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    I sweat with the best out there! I used to lose an unreal amount of weight in sports & military activities. If your familiar with wrestlers "making their weight" via sweating I've done that too. I ride with a sheepskin pad. I wear underwear that's designed for active sports-it does not have to be LD as thats only one brand & another may fit you better-worth the comparison 7 they don't "own" that market. No jeans but I do wear hiking shorts in warmer weather & makes an easy transition to street clothes I wear most of the time. My latest "great thing" is the Gold Bond spray powder that "Shaq" advertises on TV. I now know why he has that clever smile on his face cause his butt is cool & dry. The powder coating isn't like the coating of powder you get from monkey butt powder(too pricey-use baby powder instead!) or baby powder but it does work and cools your butt- I also spray it in places that require TMI
    $6.95 a pop but I'm into my 2nd can,it flat works!
    Hey maybe you(OP) need to see a doc cause you have an overactive something or other?
    As a sweater I still find this funny!
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