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    Quote Originally Posted by fastdogs2 View Post
    I am campaigning for Lewisburg, WV as the next eastern rally site. This is the WV state fairground site and there are plenty of motels available in the area. The high rollers can even opt to stay at the plush Greenbrier Resort in White Sulfur Springs. The altitude of Lewisburg is such that the temperature is usually in the 80-90 degree range. West Virginia has plenty of excellent two lane roads, with twisty curves, elevation changes and interesting small towns. The state needs the revenue a rally would bring, since coal is not now in favor and most of the state's economy is based on coal mining.

    For those of you who have not ridden in WV, check out the roads (US19, 16, 28, 39, 92, 55, 3, 10, 219, 60, 250, 33) that are within reasonable distance from Lewisburg.

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    I think Lewisburg is a great idea. I'm not aware of the facilities but the location would be top notch. It would be easy for many people to attend with I-81, I-64 and I-77 nearby. The roads are great (thanks to Robert Byrd and his influence in congress) and we need to give our members a more accurate impression of WV than the one they received at the Charleston Rally. A split rally with horrible weather in a difficult part of the state was not a good idea (in hindsight).

    The Johnson City rally had a great turnout and it is about 70 miles from me. The Lewisburg rally is 141 miles on the other side of me so it is in the same general area except it is closer to population centers. I think the turnout would be great. I hope the committee is looking at Lewisburg and the facilities are adequate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98lee View Post
    There should really only be two criteria to determine if any rally was a success:

    #1. Did the attendees have a good time?

    #2. Did the rally not generate excessive red ink?


    This rally was a success on both counts.



    Numbers of attendees are irrelevant if fun was not had!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastdogs2 View Post
    I am campaigning for Lewisburg, WV as the next eastern rally site.
    There is at least one other member that I know of who has identified this site. Please let me know if you need any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    Adding to my previous attendance figures:

    2013 - Salem, OR - 5100
    2012 - Sedalia, MO - 5295
    2011 - Bloomsburg, PA - 7330
    2010 - Redmond, OR - 6109
    2009 - Johnson City, TN - 8972
    2008 - Gillette, WY - 5103
    2007 - West Bend, WI - 7684
    2006 - Essex Junction, VT - 9200+

    Looks like a definite trend...eastern to midwest rallies tend to have higher attendance. But I guess we figured that out!
    That's funny.... We attended Essex Junction, West Bend, Johnson City. All the ones above 7,000. Bloomsburg coincided with AMA Vintage Days. Priority.
    How many were in Lima, Ohio?

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    2013 - Salem, OR - 5100
    2012 - Sedalia, MO - 5295
    2011 - Bloomsburg, PA - 7330
    2010 - Redmond, OR - 6109
    2009 - Johnson City, TN - 8972
    2008 - Gillette, WY - 5103
    2007 - West Bend, WI - 7684
    2006 - Essex Junction, VT - 9200+
    2005 - Lima, OH - 8300
    2004 - Spokane, WA - 6187
    2003 - Charleston, WV - 7198
    2002 - Trenton, Ontario, Canada - 5682
    2001 - Redmond, OR - 6677
    2000 - Midland, MI - 6188
    1999 - Rhinebeck, NY - 6440
    1998 - Missoula, MT - 6050
    1997 - Fredericksburg, TX - 3826
    1996 - Morganton, NC - 5904
    1995 - Durango, CO - 6137
    1994 - Moodus, CT - 5627
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    Yep! We were in Lima and in Charleston. I guess we go only to rallies that have 7,000+ attendees....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMSimon View Post
    Yep! We were in Lima and in Charleston. I guess we go only to rallies that have 7,000+ attendees....
    I was in Lima, Charleston, Johnson City and Bloomsburg where they all had over 7,000. The thing they had in common was that they were all within 500 miles of my Virginia home.
    'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.

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    Greetings,

    A few random thoughts.

    Here in New England we call going across Kansas the "Tour de Corn." I'll never forget after my first time across the plains (2000 Butt Lite) I mentioned to my friends that it wasn't a big deal and the said "you must have done it at night." which was true.

    I've done it in the day and yes if you're going to run I70 it stinks.

    Having said this there are some excellent east / west roads such as 36 that are plenty fast between towns. The towns are cool and riding through one can get a feel for how things work in the heartland. It might add a half day to a Boston to Denver ride.

    For those who have a limited travel distance I understand and feel very fortunate I don't have the same issues. It is a shame because if you live east of the Rockies and you've never ridden a bike in the Rockies, Sierras or the high plains you are really missing out. When our rally is west it is a golden opportunity to sample some of the best riding, scenery and food in the United States.

    Rally or not if you've never ridden the west, ship your bike, rent a bike or figure out way way to take the time, you'll be glad you did. Until then put it on your bucket list.

    I think the Vermont rally was the perfect storm for big attendance. The economy was humming, MOA membership was at its peak, a huge number of BMW riders within 600 miles *and* it was VERMONT! I doubt we'll ever crack 9k again but it would be cool if it did.

    Perhaps we need to return to Vermont.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Nye View Post
    Perhaps we need to return to Vermont.
    THAT'S what I've been saying!
    Makes perfect sense since I believe the MOA has to be sensitive to the July temperatures since prior to this one the past couple of rallies were uncomfortable. I'd think twice before considering anything south of the Mason-Dixon line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClassicVW View Post
    THAT'S what I've been saying!
    Makes perfect sense since I believe the MOA has to be sensitive to the July temperatures since prior to this one the past couple of rallies were uncomfortable. I'd think twice before considering anything south of the Mason-Dixon line.
    Unless it is on the Blue Ridge. I have left my home near Wilmington, NC in 100 degree heat and had to put on a jacket when I hit the Blue ridge Parkway.

    The problem is all the riders who refuse to attend if they have no real bed to sleep in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDOCKERY132445 View Post
    The problem is all the riders who refuse to attend if they have no real bed to sleep in.
    Why is that a problem? That has never kept me from going. I was always able to get a hotel room, even if it was further away. In West Bend, we were 60 miles from the rally site. Made for some good riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20774 View Post
    All together, now!
    2013 - Salem, OR - 5100
    2012 - Sedalia, MO - 5295
    2011 - Bloomsburg, PA - 7330
    2010 - Redmond, OR - 6109
    2009 - Johnson City, TN - 8972
    2008 - Gillette, WY - 5103
    2007 - West Bend, WI - 7684
    2006 - Essex Junction, VT - 9200+
    2005 - Lima, OH - 8300
    2004 - Spokane, WA - 6187
    2003 - Charleston, WV - 7198
    2002 - Trenton, Ontario, Canada - 5682
    2001 - Redmond, OR - 6677
    2000 - Midland, MI - 6188
    1999 - Rhinebeck, NY - 6440
    1998 - Missoula, MT - 6050
    1997 - Fredericksburg, TX - 3826
    1996 - Morganton, NC - 5904
    1995 - Durango, CO - 6137
    1994 - Moodus, CT - 5627
    If attendance is the yardstick for a successful Rally, we would have every Rally in Vermont and never have one in Texas. But somehow I don't think that is the correct measure or even the point of the Rallies.


    Fun and variety are higher priority than attendance numbers.



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    I am not a rally rat but I must admit I am jealous.

    For all the moaning and groaning about location, time of year and every minute detail making up a rally, swings in composition and numbers of MOA membership; the consistent attendance - event staying power - and overall satisfaction is amazing to me. If I had accomplished the same in my businesses over the past twenty years I would be retired and riding none stop instead of going to work tomorrow morning.
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    Hotel Rooms at Rallies

    Quote Originally Posted by EMSimon View Post
    Why is that a problem? That has never kept me from going. I was always able to get a hotel room, even if it was further away. In West Bend, we were 60 miles from the rally site. Made for some good riding.
    +1

    I am one of those "problem riders" who can't camp and I have never thought it was an inconvenience to stay some distance from the rally site. At Sedalia, my riding buddies and I stayed at a cabin on Truman Lake about 50 miles south of the fairgrounds. At other rallies, I have been some distance away, but always enjoyed the ride to/from the rally.

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