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    K1600GT Service questions

    I am really thinking of pulling the trigger and get me a K1600GT. how bad are the service's to do you're self? how much would i need to invest to say do my own valve adjustments. (GS911 tool is already in my to get list of i buy the bike.) i know on this k bike i think i read you only need to check them 24,000 miles I ride a R1100RT currently that i maintain and service myself. I want to keep doing them myself. And thank you in advance for the reply's

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    Are you serious? You are thinking of buying one of the best and most advanced sport-touring bikes on the market, shell out north of $25,000.- and you want to save on service by doing it yourself???
    I own 3 Honda CBXes (late 1979, early 80s six-cylinder) and one of the most common complaint I hear in the community is, that Honda dealers do not want to work on it anymore.
    Sometimes, I have a hard time understanding my fellow BMW owners.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMSimon View Post
    Are you serious? You are thinking of buying one of the best and most advanced sport-touring bikes on the market, shell out north of $25,000.- and you want to save on service by doing it yourself???
    I own 3 Honda CBXes (late 1979, early 80s six-cylinder) and one of the most common complaint I hear in the community is, that Honda dealers do not want to work on it anymore.
    Sometimes, I have a hard time understanding my fellow BMW owners.....
    I applaud the gentleman for taking the initiative to want to do it himself.

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    I don't have a K1600. I don't even have a K1600 service manual. But I would venture that the valve check and or adjustment is ridiculous, but that other than that routine service would be very straightforward. Oil and fluid changes, new brake pads, tires, shocks, etc ought to be straightforward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMSimon View Post
    Are you serious? You are thinking of buying one of the best and most advanced sport-touring bikes on the market, shell out north of $25,000.- and you want to save on service by doing it yourself???
    I own 3 Honda CBXes (late 1979, early 80s six-cylinder) and one of the most common complaint I hear in the community is, that Honda dealers do not want to work on it anymore.
    Sometimes, I have a hard time understanding my fellow BMW owners.....
    Odd comment, I've done ALL my own maintenance on all my bikes, cars, etc for a long time, if you got the skills and tools it dosen't matter what you paid for the machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by svk1200s View Post
    Odd comment, I've done ALL my own maintenance on all my bikes, cars, etc for a long time, if you got the skills and tools it dosen't matter what you paid for the machine.
    So, let's see: You have the skills: Are you a trained motrcycle mechanic and attended all the service schools the manufacturer put up for the vehicles you owned?
    You have the tools: Do you own a shop with all the proper diagnostic equipment to troubleshoot a modern electronically controlled vehicle? Do you own all the special tools required today for all possible different fasteners?
    Do you have all specific service manuals, giving you all the torques, data and other specs for proper maintenance?

    I have a masters in mechanical engineering. I raced bikes when I was younger. I still work on most of my classic bikes. There is a certain level of technology that became state fo the art at a certain time and I believe that maintenance of that should not be tackled at home in a garage. The K1600 is shock full of that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EMSimon View Post
    So, let's see: You have the skills: Are you a trained motrcycle mechanic and attended all the service schools the manufacturer put up for the vehicles you owned?
    You have the tools: Do you own a shop with all the proper diagnostic equipment to troubleshoot a modern electronically controlled vehicle? Do you own all the special tools required today for all possible different fasteners?
    Do you have all specific service manuals, giving you all the torques, data and other specs for proper maintenance?

    I have a masters in mechanical engineering. I raced bikes when I was younger. I still work on most of my classic bikes. There is a certain level of technology that became state fo the art at a certain time and I believe that maintenance of that should not be tackled at home in a garage. The K1600 is shock full of that stuff.
    And that's why I would never buy one. I'd have to get a second job just to pay for maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMSimon View Post
    So, let's see: You have the skills: Are you a trained motrcycle mechanic and attended all the service schools the manufacturer put up for the vehicles you owned?
    You have the tools: Do you own a shop with all the proper diagnostic equipment to troubleshoot a modern electronically controlled vehicle? Do you own all the special tools required today for all possible different fasteners?
    Do you have all specific service manuals, giving you all the torques, data and other specs for proper maintenance?

    I have a masters in mechanical engineering. I raced bikes when I was younger. I still work on most of my classic bikes. There is a certain level of technology that became state fo the art at a certain time and I believe that maintenance of that should not be tackled at home in a garage. The K1600 is shock full of that stuff.
    I think the flaw in your logic is that the factory trained tech is always the guy doing all the work on your bike for the minor services (oil, filter and checks). . . .

    I'm sorry but the minor service on these bikes is not complex, requires no special tools other than a torque wrench, and yes, I have the factory service manual which is pretty damn complete for all of the service procedures.

    I've had too much shoddy work done at a variety of dealerships to think that I'm putting my bike in good hands EVERY time I drop it off.

    Just my .02 and probably not worth that.

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    Well, you are retreating. ALL of the service work is different to MINOR service work, as far as I am concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St0mP121 View Post
    (GS911 tool is already in my to get list of i buy the bike.)
    I don't think the new GS-911 is available at this time for the K1600.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I don't think the new GS-911 is available at this time for the K1600.
    To the best of my personal knowledge, I believe Lee is correct regarding the lack of availability of the new GS-911 for the K1600!
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    Quote Originally Posted by beemerdons View Post
    To the best of my personal knowledge, I believe Lee is correct regarding the lack of availability of the new GS-911 for the K1600!
    Stephan said he hoped to have one for sale at this years rally. Fwiw

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    Quote Originally Posted by St0mP121 View Post
    I am really thinking of pulling the trigger and get me a K1600GT. how bad are the service's to do you're self? how much would i need to invest to say do my own valve adjustments. (GS911 tool is already in my to get list of i buy the bike.) i know on this k bike i think i read you only need to check them 24,000 miles I ride a R1100RT currently that i maintain and service myself. I want to keep doing them myself. And thank you in advance for the reply's
    The 1600 GTL/GT is a pretty straight forward bike to work on for basic maintenance. It's when you get into the more complex issues that things can get a little testy. Valves are checked at 18,000 miles and isn't a big deal as long as you have the service manual. However if a valve is out of spec than it gets much more involved. Re the GS911, I don't think it is even in the foreseeable future. Also, you will have to visit your dealer after every service to have the service reminder re-set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by St0mP121 View Post
    I am really thinking of pulling the trigger and get me a K1600GT. how bad are the service's to do you're self? how much would i need to invest to say do my own valve adjustments. (GS911 tool is already in my to get list of i buy the bike.) i know on this k bike i think i read you only need to check them 24,000 miles I ride a R1100RT currently that i maintain and service myself. I want to keep doing them myself. And thank you in advance for the reply's
    I did my own work on my RT. Here is my experience so far on the K1600GTL:
    I let the dealer do the 600 mile service in case they noticed any break in / set up / recall issues.
    I did the 6K - basically an easy oil change. changed my own tires to PR3's.
    Im letting them do the 12K tomorrow, because I want the latest software update.
    I plan on letting them do the 18K which is the valve check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEGRASSPICKER View Post
    I I did the 6K - basically an easy oil change. .

    Elaborate, please. Supposedly the oil change is not as "easy" as on any other bike, e.g.: drain and refill. Is there a specific procedure that involves restarting the engine in the middle of the oil change to ensure proper filling of both oil reservoirs?

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