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    Quote Originally Posted by sloride View Post
    spoke with the service manager/mechanic at the dealer . He said one of the things they do at the 600 mile service is re-torque the steering head. Probably a good idea
    what "steering head"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerfish1100 View Post
    what "steering head"?

    The one next to the muffler bearing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerfish1100 View Post
    what "steering head"?
    The Telelever ball joint!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    The Telelever ball joint!
    really? the original 170 lb ft is not secure enough?
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    Don't know, they work on a lot of different bikes maybe had the model year or bike confused . It was a phone discussion. I know he rides a BMW . We'll see what he says when I take it in
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    Now you made me look it up! The dealer where I bought my 12RT did change the final drive fluid at 600 miles. At another dealer where I had my 6,000 mile service done, I asked them for a maintenance schedule. It says its for a 0440- R 1200 RT and they gave it to me on 8/10/12. It says "33 00 501 oil change, rear wheel drive - every two years or 20,000 km". I'm not sure what to make of that, but I'm glad it got changed at 600, and I'm going to do it at 12,000 in another few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    I asked them for a maintenance schedule....
    And perhaps they gave you A maintenance schedule, not ALL maintenance schedules. In the past BMW had these various schedules

    BMW Running-in Check
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    BMW Inspection
    BMW Inspection with Annual Inspection
    BMW Annual Inspection

    I suspect they still have something similar. You need all of them to get the complete picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponch1 View Post
    The one next to the muffler bearing.
    That is right, thare is no steering head bearings on Telelever suspension design and all fasteners - not only ball joints need to be checked at routine service for proper torque, but the cylinder heads on Camheads no longer need a retorque - at any intervals.
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    A&S cycle sells Castrol SAF-XO for $43.00 1 Liter Castrol labeled part # 33117695240

    A friend just picked up a 1 Liter container of BMW labeled final drive gear oil C-SAF-XO SAE 75W-90 for $25.00 part #07512293972

    That's quite a price difference . Just curious, could these two oils be somehow different?
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    I picked up a quart of the LAND ROVER LRN7591 final drive lube (75-90w) which is supposed the be Castrol SAF-XO rebadged for LR. Parts guy also told me all their oils at LR are Castrol. Just cracked open the quart, put my pinky in it and dropped the oil onto a clean surface, it is perfectly clear, no color whatsoever. Land Rover Dealer sold it to me for $23 bux.

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    The BMW labeled oil is marked C-SAF-XO
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRw2ge View Post
    Don E..

    I picked up a quart of the LAND ROVER LRN7591 final drive lube (75-90w) which is supposed the be Castrol SAF-XO rebadged for LR. Parts guy also told me all their oils at LR are Castrol. Just cracked open the quart, put my pinky in it and dropped the oil onto a clean surface, it is perfectly clear, no color whatsoever. Land Rover Dealer sold it to me for $23 bux.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sloride View Post
    A&S cycle sells Castrol SAF-XO for $43.00 1 Liter Castrol labeled part # 33117695240

    A friend just picked up a 1 Liter container of BMW labeled final drive gear oil C-SAF-XO SAE 75W-90 for $25.00 part #07512293972

    That's quite a price difference . Just curious, could these two oils be somehow different?
    Doubt any difference. Just A&S making a bit of extra profit. I remember seeing an $895 set up fee on the price sheet for a new 1200GS while visiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martyhill View Post
    Doubt any difference. Just A&S making a bit of extra profit. I remember seeing an $895 set up fee on the price sheet for a new 1200GS while visiting.
    BMW dealers aren't supposed to charge a setup fee from what I have read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ponch1 View Post
    I thought the BMW stuff was red?
    Yeah, I've drained my final after a dealer service and it was red... but according to DirtRider (he's THE GURU.. find him on BMWST forum) he says that it is one and the same...(The LandRover 7591 FD oil) I wonder if the red is just some dye?
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