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    List of R75/5 threaded hardware?

    I'm freshening up a '72 SWB R75/5 and looking for new hardware. I've found several sources of stainless hardware kits, but nothing that's zinc plated, which is what I want. So..... 2 questions: Does anyone have a complete list of external hardware for this bike (that I can use as a shopping list)? Or, does anyone know of zinc plated hardware kits for sale?


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    I can tell you where to send it to get it cadmium replated & looking nice. A guy that sells on ebay, I think he's "StainlessCycle" or similar there sells SS kits and may have a list for his use . He's in WV.
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    Hi Art. You shouldn't have too much trouble find zinc plated metric fasteners. But the OEM fasteners on the /5 were actually cadmium plated.

    Our local Ace Hardware even stock stainless metric stuff which made my "spruce up project" fairly easy. One caution with stainless-on-stainless fasteners... then tend to gall easily, make sure you use an anti-seize lubricant when you assemble them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lmo1131 View Post
    make sure you use an anti-seize lubricant when you assemble them.
    And reduce the torque settings where necessary. The anti-seize tends to allow the parts to slide easier, resulting in on the order of 25-30% higher ending torque.
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    check Hucky's site, I think he offers whole fastener kits very affordable for exact series types.

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    check Hucky's site, I think he offers whole fastener kits very affordable for exact series types.
    +1 on that count. > http://bmwhucky.com/0075kits.html

    Does anyone have a complete list of external hardware for this bike (that I can use as a shopping list)? Or, does anyone know of zinc plated hardware kits for sale?
    And he was even kind enough to break his kits down with a published BOM ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ninety8 View Post
    check Hucky's site, I think he offers whole fastener kits very affordable for exact series types.
    Still stainless...not what the OP was looking for.
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    I edited toward cadmium replate
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    Hardware source

    I expect to purchase mine from McMaster-Carr. They have nearly anything you would ever want.

    Unfortunately, you have to purchase in "packs" but even then if you can get listing of the bolts, nuts, screws, etc. Depending on the item, some "packs" are only 5 pieces, while other items (like small washers) might go in packs of 50. I think you can get nearly all for less than you might imagine, and I would bet even cheaper than the "already-made-up-kits" that some are selling by the bike model. Having some left over is better than spending an arm and a leg to get the exact quantities.

    What I am doing right now, is to take a "survey" inventory and writing down the biggest mounts of certain sizes, and get a supply of them so that they are just "around" when I need them Of course, if you have a project, write down dim's of bolts, nuts, washers, and types (round head, phillips, nyloc, etc) and then order right away. They will ship immediately any you will have your new stainless, zinc plated, hardened, etc. bolts in time for reassembly!

    Check them out on the internet. They have their complete inventory easily findable on their site. As a purchasing agent for a large corporation and smaller ones, I have NEVER had a mis-shipment or any problem

    It used to be that they would only sell to business, but about 6 or 8 years ago they changed policy and nowsend to individuals.

    I have had the occasion of going to their will call, and their business is state of the art. In the background, HUGE building with conveyors running all over - through the air, down spirals, etc. They usually ship same day. I have never - ever had a back order!!

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    Listings of hardware?

    I would like a simple listing of bolts, nuts, washers, etc. (see my previous note) for my particular bike, a 1978 R100/7. On the project I am currently doing, I am replacing all with stainless AND using antisieze on everything - including the shanks where there are no threads.

    A friend of mine, wanted to remove a steel SHCS from a straight-thru hole with a nut on the end. The nut unscrewed from the screw pretty easily, but the bolt shank was siezed up in a straight thru hole in an aluminum fork bottom. It will have to be drilled out!

    Stainless and antisieze on everything for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmylee View Post
    I expect to purchase mine from McMaster-Carr. They have nearly anything you would ever want.

    Unfortunately, you have to purchase in "packs" but even then if you can get listing of the bolts, nuts, screws, etc. Depending on the item, some "packs" are only 5 pieces, while other items (like small washers) might go in packs of 50. I think you can get nearly all for less than you might imagine, and I would bet even cheaper than the "already-made-up-kits" that some are selling by the bike model. Having some left over is better than spending an arm and a leg to get the exact quantities.

    What I am doing right now, is to take a "survey" inventory and writing down the biggest mounts of certain sizes, and get a supply of them so that they are just "around" when I need them Of course, if you have a project, write down dim's of bolts, nuts, washers, and types (round head, phillips, nyloc, etc) and then order right away. They will ship immediately any you will have your new stainless, zinc plated, hardened, etc. bolts in time for reassembly!

    Check them out on the internet. They have their complete inventory easily findable on their site. As a purchasing agent for a large corporation and smaller ones, I have NEVER had a mis-shipment or any problem

    It used to be that they would only sell to business, but about 6 or 8 years ago they changed policy and nowsend to individuals.

    I have had the occasion of going to their will call, and their business is state of the art. In the background, HUGE building with conveyors running all over - through the air, down spirals, etc. They usually ship same day. I have never - ever had a back order!!
    Several years ago, McMaster-Carr was not the model of efficiency it is today. But, I agree they are (now) a model company. I think some of the transition came about the time they started selling to individuals. Although I have a corporate account, I use my personal account for many purchases.

    A while back I managed to ruin a M5x0.8x45 mm socket head cap screw when removing the stator. McMaster-Carr had the stainless replacements, but 25 was the minimum order which raised the price per fastener when only four are needed. My local ACE hardware has a pretty good selection of stainless as well. McMaster-Carr sells any and all fasteners for my airhead but the cost may be a bit high.
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    Oh, the humanity!

    To think, a nice old Airhead put together with Ace Hardware/Home Depot/McMaster Carr fasteners!

    And while we're at it, lets use goop from PepBoys (antiseize).

    Lots and lots of these bikes have truly exited the scene, haven't they? That includes these.

    Sorry, BMW ... it's almost as if you shouldn't build them so well that when they get old they suffer such indignities.
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    Sorry, BMW ... it's almost as if you shouldn't build them so well that when they get old they suffer such indignities.
    Indignities? Really....

    I've owned my /5 since it came out of the crate 1974 and have lived within a mile of the deep blue Pacific since 1976. I guess I could have left the original fasteners with their forty year rusty patina .... the same goes for the oxidized aluminum cases, dry-rotted rubber bits, and faded out paint.

    No intent to pick a fight here, but what's your point Kent? What's wrong maintaining an old machine and a little pride of ownership?
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    fasteners on machines are like pencils,sometimes limited life & somewhat expendable...

    !!!!WARNING!!! none of these listings below is a source for genuine BMW vintage fasteners!!!
    some of my screwy places: www.boltdepot.com , www.gotbolts.com-I like the service @ the MT branch & they sell more than they list online, www.theboltguy.com he sells bolt kits for the non-purist, www.nutty.com , www.speedandsport.com -to get stuff cadmium & chrome replated which he sends off -he's in CA and he's not a place specializes in BMW restoration-(sometimes he can mix your few items in with his stuff) , www.albanycountyfasteners.com -I bought from them on ebay too-great prices for the limited sizes they have for sale-I can get 25 for less than a few from box store drawer.
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    A few of the fasteners are uncommon; I would say order them from BMW but BMW doesn't sell the right ones every time.

    One is the lower left shock bolt; it's a thin-head, thin-nut, fine thread that now comes from BMW as a black bolt and a shiny full-thickness Nylok nut that looks like it came from Home Depot. Yuck.

    The footpeg bolts on the later bikes (like the early '80s) were shallow-head piloted allens but are now standard head and - as of the last few months - with T45. So the heads stick out of the recessed hole in the footpeg mount.

    Some of this stuff changes every few months.

    It's easy to be a purist when you don't actually have to know this stuff.
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