Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 32

Thread: Burgman 650? 400? Opinions please?

  1. #1
    It's a way of life! oldnslow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Ash Grove, MO
    Posts
    584

    Burgman 650? 400? Opinions please?

    The Suzuki Burgman has caught my eye. Any one have real life usage opinions of the 400 and the 650. Two up touring and such. Maintenance issues...so on and so forth.

    Suzuki has 0% for 60 months on these things...so I'm testing the waters.

    Yeh its Japanese and not German, but they do seem to be rather well proven, and have a somewhat cult following.
    Mike Davis
    "Old n Slow" It's a way of life!
    1985 K100RT

    1998 R1100RT

  2. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Diamondhead, MS
    Posts
    1,054
    I read somewhere that the 400 is a better bike, in terms of reliability, overall function and value for the money.
    '03 R1150R, '03 F650GS, '97DR200SE,'78 Honda CT-90, '77Honda CT-90

  3. #3
    It's a way of life! oldnslow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Ash Grove, MO
    Posts
    584
    Quote Originally Posted by Acejones View Post
    I read somewhere that the 400 is a better bike, in terms of reliability, overall function and value for the money.
    I seem to be getting that vibe from my research..but I wonder about two up riding, if it has enough umph?
    Mike Davis
    "Old n Slow" It's a way of life!
    1985 K100RT

    1998 R1100RT

  4. #4
    Registered User f14rio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    mattituck new york
    Posts
    1,081

    not old enough for one yet (66)

    "Enemy fighters at 2 o'clock!...Roger, What should i do until then?"

    2010 r1200r, 2009 harley crossbones, 2008 triumph/sidecar, 1970 norton commando 750

  5. #5
    86 K75 chassis 114638
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Surrey BC Canada
    Posts
    23
    My brother in law owns a Honda Valkrie, Suzuki V-Strom, and a 400 Burgman. He rides the latter more than the other 2. He's about 250-260 lbs and the scooter has taken him on some pretty long rides surprisingly. He cruises easily on the highway and I don't know that he's had any major problems in the 2 years he's had it. I live in British Columbia so some of the roads he travels is pretty mountainous and he will be running ahead of traffic.

    Hope that helps.

  6. #6
    rsbeemer 22600's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    New Braunfels,Texas/Taichung, Taiwan
    Posts
    338

    650 has lots of go power

    I ride a 1150gs when I am in Taiwan, which looks like for the next ten years or until I kick the bucket. Anyway, I ride with a group every Thursday and mostly in the mountains. One group member has a Burgman 650 (only one with a scooter) and all the rest are a mixed group of bmw's, hondas, and harley's. It might be him partly as a very good rider but he can keep up easily with all the rest, even on the straigh-a-ways when we might hit 80 mph. I would add he can out accelerate the harley on the straights and off the line can out run all of us. He sometimes has a pillion which seems not to hold him off his usual ride. So, with that said...I think it has enough punch. Don't know much about the 400 except that it is lower to the ground if you need that sort of thing.

    DW
    1978 R100rs MOA#22600 125cc Kymco
    The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.

  7. #7
    It's a way of life! oldnslow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Ash Grove, MO
    Posts
    584
    Quote Originally Posted by f14rio View Post
    I'm 51 and still young enough to think they are cool!
    Mike Davis
    "Old n Slow" It's a way of life!
    1985 K100RT

    1998 R1100RT

  8. #8
    Debbie's Servant Lee's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    SW Iowa
    Posts
    1,487
    Quote Originally Posted by oldnslow View Post
    I'm 51 and still young enough to think they are cool!
    My wife and I had scooters when we were in our 30s and thought they were a lot of fun.
    Lee 2011 K1300S
    MOA # 30878
    Past BMW Bikes, 2003 K1200RS, 1991 K75S, 1987 K75T, 1984 R100RT

  9. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    858
    A friend has had both, currently the 650. But he says the 400 is lighter, and gets something like a third more MPG? Says they both have plenty of power, good handling, great brakes , and are comfortable. He says he moved "up" because he thought he needed more...turns out he could have stayed with the 400.

    Another guy I know has a wife who rides a 650...he admits it will out pull his "96 Inch" Harley........

  10. #10
    Old man in the mountains osbornk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Marion VA-In the middle of some of the best riding in the country.
    Posts
    3,279
    I have a Burgman 400 and my friend has a 650. I bought mine last fall after riding my friend's 650. It took him all summer to talk me into trying it and I bought mine the next day after I rode his. Besides the name and a similar look, the 400 and 650 have little in common. The 400 has a single cylinder and a conventional CVT transmission like a Silverwing. The 650 is a twin cylinder that has an electronically controlled CVT transmission that is automatic or you can shift manually. The 400 has a much lower seating position and is much lighter. They are both very reliable but a CVT transmission failure on the 650 happens on rare occasions and it is a very expensive repair. CVT problems on the 400 are rare and belt replacement is simple and easy. The fuel mileage of the 650 is in the higher 40s to the low 50s. The fuel mileage on my 400 is generally in the high 50s to the mid 60s (typically low 60s). They have both been on the market for a long time so there are a lot of aftermarket accessories available for them. A must have accessory for the 400 is a GIVI windshield as the stock one is not good.

    I find both Burgmans to handle as well or better than an average motorcycle on crooked mountain roads. I almost always lead on our weekly group rides on crooked mountain roads and I ride at a speed that is comfortable to me. My riding buddies told me that I ride my Burgman faster than I ride my motorcycle. I find myself riding my Burgman far more than my BMW because it is so convenient and easier to handle. I can carry a lot of groceries and other stuff under the seat.

    I consider the 400 as a "in addition to a motorcycle" and the 650 as a "instead of a motorcycle". I think the 400 is a good choice for riding alone but the 650 would be better if you ride with a passenger. Either will easily cruise in excess of any speed limit all day long.

    http://www.burgmanusa.com/

    http://burgmanriders.com/

    ps. If you think you are not old enough for a scooter, ride one a few miles. (If you have a long inseam and money, try the BMW)
    Last edited by osbornk; 02-28-2013 at 06:42 PM.
    'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.

  11. #11
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Piedmont area of NC.
    Posts
    723
    I replaced my 1985 R80 with a 2012 Burgman 650.

    At this point i am just shy of 3k miles , bought it in late September last year.
    I have nothing negative to say about it, and a whole lot of positive

    It thinks it is a sport bike in the mountains , stops like one too, huge storage capacity, great fuel mileage, superb weather protection, ABS, electric adjustable windscreen, forum support almost as good as the MOA

    Lot's of farkles available , maintenance is pretty easy.
    It lacks cruise control but there are after market options available, along with heated grips and seats if you are so inclined.

    I wear an old Widder electric vest and the charging system supports it with no problem.

    Costs about $2k less than BMW's offering.

  12. #12
    Old man in the mountains osbornk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Marion VA-In the middle of some of the best riding in the country.
    Posts
    3,279
    Quote Originally Posted by 40427 View Post
    It thinks it is a sport bike in the mountains , stops like one too, huge storage capacity, great fuel mileage, superb weather protection, ABS, electric adjustable windscreen, forum support almost as good as the MOA .
    I agree the forum support is good. One thing some of the members have done is You-tube videos on how to do common things on the scooters. Here is an example of what is on You-tube for my 400. (They have similar ones for the 650.) http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...eature=mh_lolz
    'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.

  13. #13
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Northern WV
    Posts
    621
    Osbornk, you may know of the person I'm referring with a 650 Burgman who I believe lives in VA or NC? I can't recall his name. Will (of Willville) was telling us this person frequents his campground on his Burgman. He has travelled all over the country on the thing. It has something like 160,000 miles now and he's done nothing to it other than services, it's still on the original belt! I think that is a heck of a testimonial. Last time I spoke with Will the man had traded it on a Honda Silverwing which he ended up not liking as well. When he took the Silverwing back to the dealer for some service he saw his Burgman was still there and bought it back.
    14 R1200GSA, 93 R100R. No car is as fun to drive as any motorcycle is to ride.

  14. #14
    Registered User 6659's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Woodstock, GA
    Posts
    173
    I have a Burgman 400 that I ride more than my BMW. I have taken it on trips in excess of 2000 miles. I personally find it more enjoyable. It packs more stuff and allows me to ride in a little less of a hurry. I tried the 650 but can't appreciate it being heavier and more complex. I also tried the new BMW scooters and they don't appeal to me at all, being too heavy and a lot taller.
    77 R75/7
    78 R100/7
    93 R100R
    95 MZ Tour

  15. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Location
    NH, USA
    Posts
    42
    >>I'm 51 and still young enough to think they are cool!<<

    Well, I just turned 71 and they're looking really cool to me!!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •