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    Quote Originally Posted by kantuckid View Post
    Tinnitus may not be "curable" but if you have any hearing left it should be protected by whatever means possible. My ringing never stops but is tolerable and I have ~ 35% high freq loss R&L. I do find that even when I'm as well protected as possible,e.g. I ran a chain saw yesterday for 2 tanks of gas & even with very good earmuffs I got some increased ringing.
    "It's too late for ear plugs" has an ominous "ring" to it? I think some encouragement is better.
    Ditto this....

    Tinnitus is from damaged nerve cells in the inner ear. It's not an absolute, all or nothing condition. Catch it in time and you can at least reduce the likelyhood of further damage and worse tinnitus. It's never too late to start paying attention to protecting your eyes, ears, and lungs.
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    Like Jack, I have it in both ears, for 30+ years. For me it is a constant steady tone, very high pitch, like a constant whistle. My other way to decribe it is, recall the old tube type TVs from the 50s and 60s, when you turned the volume all the way down the TV "whistled" at a very high pitch. That's it for me, both ears, 24/7/365, never stops. I don't have high blood pressure. Never was in a band. No cycle or car racing with open exhausts. No jobs around excessive loud noises. Been riding since I was 14 (55 now) and almost always wore full face helmets. Almost all my bikes have produced sound close to stock, and been riding behind fairings/windshields since the late 70's. Maybe that was it, turbulent noise. I do sing in two large choral groups, but that is not loud either.

    I do not wear earbuds or listen to music while I ride, aside from the dicking around with the volume and music selections, I find it is only more noise that I must overcome later. To get decent music quality I end up with too much volume, and it distracts me from my riding.

    I do feel though, that when I wear earplugs, it makes the ringing "in my head" amplified/concentrated, even long after I take the earplugs out. So my goal with my upcoming R1200RT custom/project (I am building my version of a R1200RS) is to make a much quieter cockpit than my current R1100RS. That and a really quiet helmet. And perhaps some expensive, custom fitted/formed earplugs. The little squishy foam earplugs of any type only make the ringing worse for me. I fact, when I wear earplugs when visiting my customers manufacturing facilities, as I walk each foot-fall sounds like a dull hammer blow in my head. So I usually just press the earplugs only in far enough to make it look like I have them in.

    In my opinion I have to live with it. I have not sufferred any actual hearing loss, and I can easily differentiate the pitch within a few frequencies either side of what I hear. If there was a cure, I would jump on it. But I doubt there is anything short of somehow training my brain to "not hear" the exact pitch that is the tone. Maybe someday we'll have noise cancelling implants, something that creates the exact pitch/tone we "hear" but 180 degrees out of phase to cancel the noise out. Still, I feel what I have is not actually a pitch caused by outside sound waves, its in my head unfortunately. Probably there till I hear, and breathe no more. Then finally, sweet silence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kantuckid View Post
    Tinnitus may not be "curable" but if you have any hearing left it should be protected by whatever means possible. My ringing never stops but is tolerable and I have ~ 35% high freq loss R&L. I do find that even when I'm as well protected as possible,e.g. I ran a chain saw yesterday for 2 tanks of gas & even with very good earmuffs I got some increased ringing.
    "It's too late for ear plugs" has an ominous "ring" to it? I think some encouragement is better.
    The problem with riding with earplugs is that they cut out too much sound. My tinnitus is like the old emergency broadcast system all the time. From what I can tell it affects midrange sounds, so if there is background sound, I have problems with conversations. Mine was cause my playing in rock bands with guitarists that use marshall stacks.
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    Anyone suffering from tinnitus (an increasing percent of the population) should see an ENT (Ear-Nose-Throat) specialist, AKA otolaryngologist. As said above, there isn't a cure but you want to be sure what the cause is since there are a couple of very unpleasant possibilities.

    Mine continues to worsen inspite of ear plug use for everything from riding to lawn mowing to running a power drill. Years of riding without ear plugs (who knew?) and teaching woodworking are the culprits, plus now I've got Menier's disease which causes dizzy spells and worsens tinnitus.

    Otolaryngology will be a booming field in coming years. Today's youth will be lining up at the doc's office in 20 years. Let's hope they find a cure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenduddhist View Post
    I agree with Mule. Anyhow, it's pretty bad. In fact, sad to say, years ago, I thought about suicide. It was driving me batty, and I thought, if I have to "listen" to this the rest of my life, I might as well put an end to it now.
    Sorry to hear that; but glad you found a way to cope. If mine had stayed at the intense level it was I might well have found myself in the same position.

    It is such a strange malady; as I sit here typing, the sound in my ears just gets louder. I know the sound has not changed, it is just that reading this thread makes me think about the noise and I then of course hear it. In a few minutes it will go away again as my brain ignores it as I do something else.

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    Thankfully, I don't have it real bad. If I don't think about it, I don't hear anything. If I think about it, I hear a very high pitched tone, but not loud.

    As far as loss is concerned, I do have some. My right ear is worse than my left. I noticed this one night when turning over in bed from one side to the other. All of a sudden, I could hear much more clearly.

    As I've said in other threads, I'm a definite convert to full time earplug use while riding. I don't listen to music or any GPS. I sing to myself and pay attention to the ride.

    I just use Max's green foam plugs, they work just fine for me. I use the same plugs when shooting trap.

    I'm trying to preserve the hearing I have left and to keep the unpleasant internal noises from bothering me.
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    5 years now for me. varies from barely there, to quite distracting. high pitched hum, like a fluro ballast that has gone haywire. foam plugs, or Etymotics with iPod. They have a 30 db sound reduction to cut down further damage, and allows music to be played at a fairly low level as well.
    i'll post specifics on it when i get home, but i found a vitamin regimen on-line that does seem to help. does not eliminate it, but i notice if i don't take them for a few days that the ringing gets worse.
    years of loud concerts, mowers, chainsaws, etc, and no ear protection during 250,000 m/c miles were my causatives. wish i could go back and make preventative corrections, but no chance of that happening.
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    Have it here too and have for many years. I don't hear the ringing when I don't think about it. I find it more distracting when I'm in a quiet environment. My general hearing loss borders on severe in the higher frequencies. To compensate for the hearing loss I wear BTE hearing aids. I did not want to wear them--still don't--but the difference with/without is dramatic. Before I had hearing aids, I didn't realized how much I was missing (birds chirping, conversations, jokes, music, etc.). My audiologist is insistent that I protect what hearing I still have and stressed that noise induced hearing loss is cumulative, permanent, and irreversible. Before I ride, I always remove my HAs and insert the blue Hearos (33NRR). I just consider the ear plugs as part of my protective gear.

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    Got mine from bout with pneumonia in 1969. Dr advice was go to bed with radio on.
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    I sympathize with all tinitus sufferers. I'm one of you. Often I'll suddenly hear the sound. It seems if I'm concentrating on things, talking with others and being busy, even reading some times, I'll not hear it. I made a point of listening carefully to one of several different tones in my case. After a while the tone to which I was listening intently seemed to fade and disappear temporarily. I figured I fatigued that particular tone. I was hoping to exercise it and strengthen the fibers which were causing the tinitus at that frequency. Don't know if it will work, but it sometimes keeps me amused. On the other hand, maybe I'm hallucinating.

    Wear protection for your ears always. I use ear plugs on buses, city streets, stores with music, riding my K75 and other places. I don't need to add to the problem.

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    I'm 62 and have a mild dose in my left ear centered at 1500-1600Hz. I've also got a 56db notch in my hearing, a half octave wide, at the same frequency. The 'hairs' in the cochlea corresponding to those frequencies are history. Most of my rock and roll years were spent behind the mixing console, which is the only reason I'm not deaf. My hearing loss and tinnitus came a decade after the rock years and I don't know the cause, but I did have extensive testing trying to find out.

    Sometimes it bothers me, most times it does not. I can't use the telephone on that ear because 1500Hz is where intelligibility comes from, and if I put my head on the pillow with the bad ear facing up, I cannot hear crickets AT ALL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motodan View Post
    So that's why all those crickets keep singing in the background....lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    Got mine from bout with pneumonia in 1969. Dr advice was go to bed with radio on.
    That helps with mine, and in warmer weather I may run a fan instead.

    Not sure what started mine, as I have worn ear plugs for many years while riding. I have also notice recently, a build up of wax in just one ear, to the point that i need to soften & clean about every other day. Not sure if the two are related? That ear, the waxy one...is about deaf, compared to the other?

    Joys of aging I suppose!

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    There was a period of time maybe 12-15 years ago that, in addition to the amazon rainforest soundtrack in my head, I was getting these crazy roaring sounds that would go from one ear to the other. It would come out of nowhere. It sounded/felt like an F16 came roaring into one ear and out the other. I would reflexively duck my head when it happened. Only happend a couple of times a year, but, damn, was that a trip! Hasn't happened in many years now. Audiologist confirmed that happens sometimes with tinnitus.
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    I sure am grateful that tinitus and some hearing loss is all I have to deal with, at this point. I know someone who has a disease where they are slowly going blind. He's only in his 40's. Had normal vision up until about 3 years ago. He has maybe a year of sight left, then no more. I hate to even think about it. At least when your deaf you can still ride and drive, read, etc.
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