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    Any Alternatives to the weight of the RT ?

    I have a 2011 R1200RT. I love the bike, and all of the touring goodies included (heated seats, grips, ESA, adjustable windscreen, adjustable seat).

    I just think I would like a lighter ride. I see the 2013 F800GT, but that bike seems to be missing the touring extras.

    Any thoughts on a lighter alternative to the RT ? While I love BMW and would like to stay in the brand, I am not married to them.

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    How about an R1200R?

    When my GS is too much for me to handle I'll have a R1200R or it's replacement.

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    My wife had a 2011 RT and didn't like the size/weight either. She swapped it for a 2012 1200R and LOVES it. Lighter, handles better, etc. We equipped with a Cee Bailey windscreen, Touratech hand guards, Rizoma cylinder head protectors, ZUMO 665, etc. She's got the RT bags and small topcase on it and it makes an awesome sport tourer for her. Highly recommended...

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    The new F800 GT might be a good choice, too.


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    The comparable sport-touring bikes from other manufacturers (Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Triumph) all weigh considerably more. One reason I moved from an ST1300 Honda (720 pounds!) to my 2011 RT was the huge weight difference. The new BMW 800GT looks like a winner to me, but I'll have to ride one to see if it's roomy enough for my antique body. Like the orange color, too!

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    What touring extras are missing from the F800GT? In the BMW line the two mentioned, R1200R and F800GT, would be what I'd look at too.
    14 R1200GSA, 93 R100R. No car is as fun to drive as any motorcycle is to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradkap View Post
    I have a 2011 R1200RT. I love the bike, and all of the touring goodies included (heated seats, grips, ESA, adjustable windscreen, adjustable seat).

    I just think I would like a lighter ride. I see the 2013 F800GT, but that bike seems to be missing the touring extras.

    Any thoughts on a lighter alternative to the RT ? While I love BMW and would like to stay in the brand, I am not married to them.

    The F800GT weighs in at 470lbs, that's 100 lbs. lighter than the R1200RT, which is known as a light touring bike. I'm not sure you can get a bike that is much lighter than the F800GT that still qualifies as a tourer. Surprisingly, the R1200R weighs in at 492, thatÔÇÖs 22 lbs. more than the GT without the fairing and windshield.

    You might want to go after market for some of those touring extras. But keep in mind, those touring extras are going to add more weight.

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    The R1200RT is the absolutely lightest fully featured touring bike available. The ST1300, FJR1300 or others are significantly heavier and still don't have all the RT's features.

    I was put off by the idea of the "heavy" RT and for several years tried to get by with a lighter substitute.

    There was an R1150R with all the touring farkles:
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    and an F800ST done up as a tourer:
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    But neither could hold a candle to the comfort, weather protection and features of the RT. I wish I had skipped the other two and gotten one to begin with.
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    The R1200r is a great bike and mounts all the luggage that the RT carries. It is a very good alternative if the height or weight of the RT is an issue. It does not have the weather protection of the RT, and most of us RR owners figured out very quickly that we spent the cost of the RT by trying to upgrade the RR to the RT "Lite".

    This was my 2007 RR with the luggage mounted:






    Here is the replacement RT that seduced me:



    I have a blog posted here about the change. Scroll down and I wrote a comparison of the RR vs. RT at post #127.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradkap View Post
    I have a 2011 R1200RT. I love the bike, and all of the touring goodies included (heated seats, grips, ESA, adjustable windscreen, adjustable seat).

    I just think I would like a lighter ride. I see the 2013 F800GT, but that bike seems to be missing the touring extras.

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    I would think the F800GT would be a great choice.
    You can buy an aftermarket heated seat.
    Heated grips are an OEM option.
    ESA is a OEM option.
    The F800GT has the choice of 4 seats.
    I guess the only option it's missing is cruise. I had cruise on my last bike and my current bike does not have it. While cruise was nice I get along fine without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visian View Post
    The new F800 GT might be a good choice, too.

    I like the picture, I like the weight. The price see a bit high. But, the lack of drive shaft is what kills it for me..........But, that is my problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    ...But, the lack of drive shaft is what kills it for me..........But, that is my problem.
    I've not owned a belt drive BMW but I have a couple Harley's and the belt drive is one of the best things about them.
    14 R1200GSA, 93 R100R. No car is as fun to drive as any motorcycle is to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    But, the lack of drive shaft is what kills it for me..........But, that is my problem.
    I see it as one of it's strongest points.

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    One good thing about belt drives is that you do not really have to do anything with them for maintenance. Their only real enemy is a stone going through one of the sprocket wheels. That will cause a quick failure as it badly damages the toothed belt. A nice thing about a belt failure is that it will usually eject behind the bike and not wrap up on something and beat the bike to death like a chain sometimes will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradkap View Post
    ....While I love BMW and would like to stay in the brand, I am not married to them.
    Maybe Honda's new, larger parallel twin series? http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ned/21444.html


    14 R1200GSA, 93 R100R. No car is as fun to drive as any motorcycle is to ride.

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