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    2005 R1200RT Final drive failure

    Add me to the growing list. My ring gear on my final drive is toast at 47,000 miles.
    Many thanks to my local dealer Schlossman's BMW of Milwaukee who went to bat for me with BMW NA offering that I would pay half the price of a new FD and they would do the labor for free. { I did have it removed from the bike}. BMW has declined that idea of goodwill saying the bike is "too far out".
    Back in the 70's I would have taken that as a compliment, now it just makes me want to disconnect from a motorcycle company that I would not long ago have boasted made the best long distance bike.
    Now, when that conversation comes up I think I'll clam up.
    By the way, I changed the "Forever fluid" in that drive at 27,000 miles and used BMW synthetic.

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    Welcome to an unfortunate and growing club.

    My '05 puked at 49,000, and is again getting 'loose.'

    Not much help from BMW either.
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    2005 R1200RT Final drive failure

    It is very interesting when BMW helps and doesn't help. Probably the mood of the rep that day.
    They know these things are puking all over.
    Lynn
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    2005 R1200RT Final drive failure

    Btw, prior to my failure I would say my RT was the best bike ever made. Now it just good. Another failure and its just okay.
    Lynn
    2008 BMW R1200RT (most fun you can legally have)
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    Crazy Horse,

    Please submit a complaint to the NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation (ODI). Here's the link: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/.

    If enough of us submit complaints, it may be easier to force a recall.
    Karl
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    What do you mean by "My ring gear is toast"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonLargiader View Post
    What do you mean by "My ring gear is toast"?
    This part. Which I cannot buy seperate of the entire unit.


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    Are you concerned about the fretting where the ball bearing mounts, or is there something I'm missing?

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    On my 08 RT it seemed s though it had been assembled with some additional dark lube, a heavy dark grease It took 3 changes to remove all visible traces of it so the contents now look like 100% BMW synthetic, the lube I'm using in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Horse View Post
    By the way, I changed the "Forever fluid" in that drive at 27,000 miles and used BMW synthetic.
    I think it is important to change the oil early, say at 600 miles, then every X miles after (for me, 6000 miles since I have to change tires anyway). 27k miles might have been too long. Of course, this is BMWs fault, not yours.

    If you get a new drive, I'd like to have the old drive if you would be willing to ship it to me (I'd pay, of course). I'd like to take on apart and rebuild it.

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    I should know this but based on one of the previous posts, I'm not so sure now... what is maintenance schedule for final drive oil changes? I've had my bike serviced by my dealer every 6,000 mile since new and left it to them... I figured while still or warranty I'd have them do the scheduled maintenance. Now I am 500 miles and 6 weeks away from factory 36 K/ 3-year warranty being up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence_D View Post
    I should know this but based on one of the previous posts, I'm not so sure now... what is maintenance schedule for final drive oil changes? I've had my bike serviced by my dealer every 6,000 mile since new and left it to them... I figured while still or warranty I'd have them do the scheduled maintenance. Now I am 500 miles and 6 weeks away from factory 36 K/ 3-year warranty being up.
    Official factory change interval is every 12,000 miles. I go further, but that's based on observation of the oil when I change it. If you have a vented rear drive BMW's suggestion isn't a bad one. Mine is sealed - and so far what comes out looks exactly like what's going in.
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    It seems to me that my fluid stays cleaner now than when I first was changing it. I just didn't really mentally note it, but I recall the fluid being blackish, now it looks red and new coming out. Anyone else noticed this or am I just mixing memories?
    Rob C. , Raleigh, NC
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboRider View Post
    It seems to me that my fluid stays cleaner now than when I first was changing it. I just didn't really mentally note it, but I recall the fluid being blackish, now it looks red and new coming out. Anyone else noticed this or am I just mixing memories?
    My '05 RT & '05 GS came out darker the first few flushes...I attributed it to whatever moly based lube was the original "forever" fill. Both our K12S's always looked clean.
    the '07 and newer bikes we have were clean from first service
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboRider View Post
    It seems to me that my fluid stays cleaner now than when I first was changing it. I just didn't really mentally note it, but I recall the fluid being blackish, now it looks red and new coming out. Anyone else noticed this or am I just mixing memories?
    Entirely possible. The factory fill apparently didn't wash off all the machining goop, or there was some break-in additive in the factory fill. As you change the oil that washes out and the oil comes out looking much clearer. As I noted - mine comes out looking like what's going in.
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