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    Oil Filter Question

    I'm able to get cheap KN-163 oil filters and was wondering if they can be used on my 1995 r1100 rsl? Cheap @ $10. each.
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    KN not listed here but plenty of others are. Check for compatibility? http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html

    I get my filters here: http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/Air...-Guzzi-s/6.htm

    Quality Bosch and Mann products starting at $6.95 for single qty and cheaper if you buy several. Beemerboneyard has good deals also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy Wanderer View Post
    KN not listed here but plenty of others are. Check for compatibility? http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterXRef.html

    I get my filters here: http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/Air...-Guzzi-s/6.htm

    Quality Bosch and Mann products starting at $6.95 for single qty and cheaper if you buy several. Beemerboneyard has good deals also.
    I will be following this up oil change is due. Thanks very much! I believe we are neighbors too, 45 min from downtown Vancouver?

    Steve

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    yes, the KN-163 is the correct filter for all oilheads, R1100 & R1150.
    teh advantage of the K&Ns is that a special filter wrench is not needed for installation/removal- just a metric socket (they have a nut welded onto the bottom face of the filter).
    Mann's are fine, as are Bosch. K&Ns also have tested very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WEEMAN View Post
    I will be following this up oil change is due. Thanks very much! I believe we are neighbors too, 45 min from downtown Vancouver?

    Steve
    Always happy to help.

    Yep, we're almost neighbours. East Van near 29th ave station.
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    Oil filters for R1150RT

    Fram oil filter PH6063 from any Auto Parts Store, may have to be ordered but will be there by next day,

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    If you read this article, Oil Filter Review and Tests, and believe it, you'd steer away from Fram and select Mobil1, Purolator or Bosch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger 04 RT View Post
    If you read this article, Oil Filter Review and Tests, and believe it, you'd steer away from Fram and select Mobil1, Purolator or Bosch.
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    you could not pay me to use a Fram filter in any vehice i own, and certainly not in one of my bikes. Th worry is not worth the minor savings.
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    Been using the Bosch 72161 filter, which I believe is the same as the Bosch 3330. You can get the 72161 from Beemer Boneyard and it is available from others too. This would be in my 2001 R1100RT, 99k miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger 04 RT View Post
    If you read this article, Oil Filter Review and Tests, and believe it, you'd steer away from Fram and select Mobil1, Purolator or Bosch.
    Unfortunately, none of the filtration tests or claims are performed by third party lab testing. I rarely believe what a manufacturer states unless they have an extremely good reputation that is maintained over time.

    The following pics clearly show differences in filter construction. Both oil filters are for the same vehicle. The top is a Fram oil filter. Note the cardboard end caps. The bottom is a Mahle oil filter.





    I don't cheap out on oil filters. I'm amazed that forum members will discuss "which oil" ad nauseam and then discuss how to save a buck on an oil filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm1515 View Post
    And guess what, don't they look 100% identical to the BMW oil filter?
    And sure enough, BMW 11 42 1 460 485 cross references to OC91 on page 723 of the Mahle filter catalog.

    Just curious, but does the OC91 have an anti-drainback bladder?



    Same for the two oil filters on my Porsche. Both Mahle (OC213 and OC 229) minus the Porsche silk screening on the casing.

    I have to say, as far as construction details, Mahle makes great oil filters. I can't comment on their filtration qualities, but I might assume they are up there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalRider View Post
    And guess what, don't they look 100% identical to the BMW oil filter?
    And sure enough, BMW 11 42 1 460 485 cross references to OC91 on page 723 of the Mahle filter catalog.

    Just curious, but does the OC91 have an anti-drainback bladder?



    Same for the two oil filters on my Porsche. Both Mahle (OC213 and OC 229) minus the Porsche silk screening on the casing.

    I have to say, as far as construction details, Mahle makes great oil filters. I can't comment on their filtration qualities, but I might assume they are up there as well.
    I have to ask, why is a anti drainback bladder required? I call it a valve.

    The filter stays full because of its position.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DROOT153718 View Post
    I have to ask, why is a anti drainback bladder required? I call it a valve.

    The filter stays full because of its position.


    David
    Exactly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DROOT153718 View Post
    I have to ask, why is a anti drainback bladder required? I call it a valve.

    The filter stays full because of its position.

    David
    I asked because the OC91 may be a Mahle equivalent, but the BMW may be custom made for BMW without the anti-drainback bladder. The pic of the open BMW filter above does not show one and neither does it need one being mounted upside down. I pre-fill them when installing a new filter.

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