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    what i'm thinking is this...

    i love my '10 r12r. i also have a harley softail crossbones. both are good around town bikes and even decent touring machines. but i'm thinking i can extend my riding season if i traded in my r12r on an r1200rt (wind/weather protection).
    the basic bike seems adaquate as is,

    http://www.goldcoast-motorsports.com...asp?veh=326036

    i'm not too enthusiastic about a sound system or an expensive gps (the one from my car works just fine for me on the bikes).

    so i'm asking... what is the 'need to have' stuff (additional cost options) i should consider if i do get the rt.

    thanks for the help, gents

    ed

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    Ed,

    Noticed you have a 2008 Triumph and Side car. Which models are they?

    On your question, the rear trunk is a must and the sterio would be questionable. Get extended warranty if possible in your part of the world.

    That would be my choice.
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    Had an RT (07) and an R (08). Kept the R and sold the RT. For me the R is easier to ride, quicker, much more nimble, easier to work on, less prone to the maladies of the RT and GS (e.g. final drive, fuel relay, ignition antenna). You can set-up the R to be a good LD tourer (see pic) and then pull everything off and have a fantastic roadster. You can take the R on roads that will be much more difficult on an RT; with the right rubber mounted it is competent on dirt. I rode it on many of the dirt roads of Alaska when I lived there. I miss the cruise control of the RT and the 7 gallon tank, but the R with a ThrotttleMeister does okay. With the set-up below I get excelllent protection, near as well as with the RT. Sell your R and you will regret it........


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    With the right equipment and riding gear - no reason the R12R can't go out and be fun in any weather the RT might go out in. Wunderlich grip-muffs handle the hands (actually wear summer gloves and have to turn the heated grips off, even in 30F temps.) Heated Gerbing jacket liner, the taller Cee-Bailey windshield, a balaclava, and for really cold - I made a heat pad for the seat (Rider-Warehouse must have liked my idea - they offer one now.) I wear a full face helmet year round, so no change there.

    With that gear, I'm good down to very close to freezing. Below freezing I generally don't ride (although there have been exceptions) because of the risk from black-ice on the road.

    Best part - I'm not battling with nor lugging around the weight of the RT. It takes me about 5 minutes (most of the time getting the torx-screwdriver out, and taking the windshield off the shelf) to switch from the summer/fall/spring shield and put the muffs on. Total cost for both was less then $300, giving me a year-round ride. I really don't see how the RT could make the experience better, and can see how it would make it worse (getting older I really appreciate the lighter weight and better foot-visibility of the R12R.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by b25bsaboy View Post
    Ed,

    Noticed you have a 2008 Triumph and Side car. Which models are they?

    On your question, the rear trunk is a must and the sterio would be questionable. Get extended warranty if possible in your part of the world.

    That would be my choice.
    "With the right equipment and riding gear - no reason the R12R can't go out and be fun in any weather the RT might go out in. Wunderlich grip-muffs handle the hands (actually wear summer gloves and have to turn the heated grips off, even in 30F temps.) Heated Gerbing jacket liner, the taller Cee-Bailey windshield, a balaclava, and for really cold - I made a heat pad for the seat (Rider-Warehouse must have liked my idea - they offer one now.) I wear a full face helmet year round, so no change there."


    thanks for the all the inputs, gents.

    the sidecar rig is a 2008 bonnie with a cosy (made in india) car. very happy with it. its quite happy at 65 mph with an adult passenger but its not for touring. its also nice to go shopping with.

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    Depends on needs

    Waiting on the Sun to ride here one Sunday morning. I came from an 1977 R100/7 into a 2012 R1200RT Been riding since 1975, lot's of bikes, lots of miles. Reading your posts and responses I thought I'd throw a few observations. You could easily keep your R model and add a bunch of stuff to make it "like an RT" but it still wouldn't be an RT. Those enginners worked pretty hard to make an ultimate sport touring unit. One can complain about the extra wieght and size of the fairing until one rides in the rain and doesn't even get wet! Or ride in the cold and not be the slightest chilled. If you really want to do some touring get the RT, looks like you've got short distance/'naked" covered. Properly designed fairings work better and will yield better fuel economy.
    As far as accessorys....I was adamant I'd have no use for a radio, then I had one and ponder how I ever lived without it on long runs. (off when in city etc) I don't use a GPS being old school so I really like the RT tankbag but get it included with purchase as the price is staggering. I ride too hard to deal with passengers and thusly dislike rear trunks as the wieght does affect handling. That and the fact I have stumpy legs and can't clear the trunk when swinging up. On longer missions I strap a dry bag with light stuff to passenger seat/rack. I have no opinion on traction control as I opted out of that. Likewise the anti-theft option.
    And yes the RT handles awesome, doesn't feel "heavy" at all once your rolling. I routinely have to pass "sportbikes" (or pull over to let them get way ahead, outta my way) when I am in twisty sections.
    Go test drive an RT and make your own call.
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    RT Rider in New England and I ride all year round.

    I did put a larger windscreen on as I'm 6'3 and didn't love the wind hitting the top of my helmet. In cold weather without the aftermarket windscreen I needed a balaclava. With the new windscreen I haven't needed it yet. Once it drops below freezing I'm sure I will.

    I've ridden in weather down to about 20 degrees (F) for about an hour last Christmas and didn't really mind. It was chilly when the sun went down but between the heated grips and heated seat I was OK. Note that I was wearing proper gear - I've read threads where people complained about cold but were wearing riding jeans and high air flow gloves... That's not going to work.
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    My dealer and I have discussed several times about how often folks buy R12R's, try to add accessories to make them function like an RT, and end up trading in on an RT. For some the R is the ideal bike, but there's a reason (several, actually) the RT is a best seller.

    As for options, my #1 recommendation is ASC. It's the sort of thing you hope to never need, but it can save a lot of expensive plastic and road rash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mneblett View Post
    My dealer and I have discussed several times about how often folks buy R12R's, try to add accessories to make them function like an RT, and end up trading in on an RT. For some the R is the ideal bike, but there's a reason (several, actually) the RT is a best seller.

    As for options, my #1 recommendation is ASC. It's the sort of thing you hope to never need, but it can save a lot of expensive plastic and road rash.
    For the kind of "touring" that I do I think I would rather have an R1200R. If I wouldn't lose my shirt I would trade my RT for an R tomorrow. I need (want) something more nimble. As it is I spend most of my time riding my Triumph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfspencer View Post
    For the kind of "touring" that I do I think I would rather have an R1200R. If I wouldn't lose my shirt I would trade my RT for an R tomorrow. I need (want) something more nimble. As it is I spend most of my time riding my Triumph.
    triumph makes decent machines and the competition they provide to bmw makes the beemers better machines.
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    Figured I would toss in my 2 cents on this debate.

    I am waiting on a pair of Wunderlich hand guards and a new Sargent seat. I have a Parabellum Scout with a new 22" windshield and a just added an MRA Bolt On Variable Wind screen Spoiler from Twisted Throttle, all in an attempt to see just how versatile the R12R can be. Once I have all the goodies in and added to the bike I will report with some pics, as well as a long ride in the colder temps.

    That said, I don't think it will ever be as suited for pure touring as an RT, but on the same token, the RT will never be as versatile as an R12R. In fact, the guy I got the bike from was going down the road of making the R12R more of a touring mount, but the wife didn't like it so he consigned the bike and got an RT.

    Funny too, I am looking at a Mazda 3 Mazdaspeed to replace my Altima..
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    i just ordered a parabellum fairing for my r12r

    thanks for all the good inputs, gents.
    they told me it would arrive in jan or feb next year.
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