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    MOA Email Newsletter on group riding

    I was really surprised to read the piece about the rules of group riding, complete with duties of the road captain, group and sweeper. I've never actually seen Beemers in a group ride; at least around these parts we all tend to ride our own ride and meet up for food or socialization...before riding our own rides back wherever we came from.

    http://www.bmwmoa.org/news/general_i...m_group_riding

    Is this a common practice in other parts of the country? I always thought of it as a cruiser thing: slow, upright, and in formation. Not knocking it; it's just not behavior I've observed among my fellow R, F or K bike riders.

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    << Is this a common practice in other parts of the country? >>

    Pete, like you, I've never seen a group of BMWs together, unless they're at a rally. I have ridden a lot in small groups (4 or fewer) and there are usually two BMWs in the pack, but that's not what this subject is about, is it? You're right, mostly BMW folks tend to ride solo, or in pairs maybe.
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    Group riding is real and it can be dangerous to your health unless everybody follows a few simple rules. Brand of bike has nothing to do with it, anybody who has done a toy run or anything similar knows what I'm talking about.

    Its important to have a discussion about this before you head out, even if there is only 2 of you.
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    I've even quit going on our club rides. I hate it....just not safe.
    We have tried talking to the group, but it's still like hearding cats.
    10-12 bikes get strung out over 3/4 of a mile with traffic trying to enter from side roads....someone is going to eat it before long.

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    I've organized a bunch of group rides over the years (anyone remember the Blitz to Morganton?). After the first one I did, a small group afternoon ride to Harpers Ferry which was a bit of a mess, I resolved never to try to keep people together in a group again. Instead I've simply printed out route sheets with stops for lunch and such and let people go at their own pace. I think it is really the only safe way to do it. Riders tend to clump together in small groups of folks who ride at similar comfort levels, and everyone ends up together at the stops anyway (just some much earlier than others )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    I've organized a bunch of group rides over the years (anyone remember the Blitz to Morganton?). After the first one I did, a small group afternoon ride to Harpers Ferry which was a bit of a mess, I resolved never to try to keep people together in a group again. Instead I've simply printed out route sheets with stops for lunch and such and let people go at their own pace. I think it is really the only safe way to do it. Riders tend to clump together in small groups of folks who ride at similar comfort levels, and everyone ends up together at the stops anyway (just some much earlier than others )
    Although as an MSF instructor, I can teach Group Riding (4-Hr. classroom block), I rarely see such principles adhered to by most riders.

    I like Ted's approach to the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
    We have tried talking to the group, but it's still like hearding cats.
    Amen...we have had some groups that behave well together 6-8 in size with close matched skillsets. Not a Cruiser parade but a lively well working group.

    ...others have been a mess even when split up to groups of 6 with seperate leaders. Especially when going to a large event such as a dealer's open house or a multi club meet-up. These start in a rural town and end up in a metropolis full of hazards. Folks feel the need to be all together at their own peril and will do dumb stuff or string out for miles and really cause a routing mess. I have been lead and sweep on these and it's stressful.

    Labeling one a faster group and one the B group only encourages the less skilled riders to try and prove they can hang...and sometimes it doesn't go well.

    Even when the leader is doing the speed limit and trying to ease and back down speed...it becomes an accordion of chasers in the back...the leader swears he was doing the limit...as sweep I was cussing. Some folks get up to speed and group ride well...some are really meant to do the lone rider thing.

    Since it seems you have to be a Type A to be riding bikes in the first place...trying to "coach" ANY A-Cats is a futile effort. Even at 55 years old, some folks think I am a whippersnapper and to just lead them to the event..."Don't suggest I ride differently in a group" has crossed my ears more than once.
    I had ridden with the Cruiser crowd over several years...it was the craziest/scariest thing to witness. I rode my GS in a mostly V Twin group that was escorting the Vietnam Wall travelling display a few years back...Great cause ...but Boy-O-Boy

    Lately it seems we are trying the " here's a map and the location...seeya there" style. As the club president...that seems to be the better way to allow folks to do their own thing.
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    I have done several rides with the Combat Vets Assn. and it's a totally different experience. Very enjoyable. Everyone stays spaced well, staggered formation, and even change lanes and pass in formation.

    I guess it's just the military experience/training that comes into play.

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