Could you imagine the answer I would have to give to a potential buyer that asked if I have ever had any problems with the bike?
Not an easy sale.
Could you imagine the answer I would have to give to a potential buyer that asked if I have ever had any problems with the bike?
Not an easy sale.
Trade it in and take the loss.Originally Posted by espressoforyou
Yep. And the majority of those seal issues were fixed once. My tranny in and out seals were replaced under warranty about 45K miles ago. The replacement wasn't a big deal. Brought the bike in about 7:30 one morning and swapped it for a loaner. Picked the bike up before 6 PM that same day. No seal issues since.
Bloodworth took 4 months to repair, I flew in and picked it up, road it 20 miles and the counterbalance shaft bearing went out. Took it back to Bloodworth they promptly ordered the needed parts and this time repaired it in one day. Said that they did not has a loaner.
So the bike is in the shop for 4 months and then last 20 miles. It is not totally Bloodworth's fault, I have had other dealers work on it and the seals keep going bad.
If you have to ask...
Doug, 2011 R1200RT Polar Metallic
MSF #127350 NAUI #36288
If I could afford a new RT, I could afford whatever the GS costs, BUT, I am curious as I wonder if it is cheaper as I'd bet they have outsourced a lot of stuff to non-german manufacturers, meaning it may be assembled in Germany, but it wasn't made there...If you have to ask...
Any thoughts on when the R and RT get the motor...
If history is any indicator the RT would be next and most likely as a 2014 model. The R has always been the last model to get upgrades. It may happen in late 2014. However, European economic conditions could slow things down.
Pass the mustard and UP THE REVOLUTION!
Happy to see the new bike is designed to run on e-gas. Even if only 10%, it is a move in the right direction. While I have yet to see one of these in person, I like what I'm seeing so far. It appears BMW has really tried to take this bike to the next level. I'm not in the market for a new GSA, but it will be interesting to see what they come up with when that model is introduced.
'09 BMW 1200 GSA, '10 BMW F650GS (in the spring for Wife), '09' V Star 950, '09 Honda Rebel (wife is learning),
'77 Honda 750A. New garage - need more room for more bikes!
From the context of the press release, I'm interpreting "e-gas" as the BMW term for the electronic, throttle by wire system. That is, the "e" does NOT refer to ethanol in any way.
"E-gas and cruise control.
An electromotive throttle actuator is now used for the first time in a GS motorcycle. Here, rider commands are passed on directly by the sensor in the accelerator twist grip to the engine control system; this then regulates the throttle valve electronically. The use of the E-gas system provides a significant improvement in terms of controllability and response. What is more, the rider can adapt engine characteristics to the situation on the road by means of five modes (optional extra). It was also possible to include an electronic cruise control function (optional extra)."
Larry
My *guess,* based on past practice, is 6 months to a year later, as a 2014 model.
I'm *keenly* interested in how the RT turns out, as the new head of Motorcycles in the US stated in Sedalia that the RT is the "most changed" of all the new models.
Mark Neblett
Fairfax, VA
#32806
Having just replaced the final drive on my 08 RT with only 50,000 km, the big question is: Will the new boxers have a final drive that is not prone to premature failure? Unless the new bikes accummulate a respectable service record re final drives, I won't be buying one. Or any other BMW for that matter.
KevinRT
Ottawa, Canada
I ride a 12 R1200R. Won't be buying a bike soon.
E gas to me means drive by wire. As in no throttle cable.
Final drive? Did they switch to the one used on K bikes like the 6 banger? Is it better?
I would hesitate to buy the untested model.
I like the rest of what they have done.
David
2012 R1200R 6,000 MIles
2011 Versys 12,000 Miles
2000 R1100RT 137,000 miles
1976 R75/6 Odometer broken for over 10 years.
Correct. BMW uses the term E-gas to describe the throttle by wire system -- same term they used with the K16.
Mark Neblett
Fairfax, VA
#32806
What is the seat height?
Are they still building the GS for people with 36 inch inseams or can those of us who are vertically challenged with 28 inch inseams be accommodated with a low seat that will enable us to flat foot a BMW bike?
Bill
BMW R1200R
Alpine White
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