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    Quote Originally Posted by David13 View Post
    Many people use the cheapest from Walmart anyway, Rotella or whatever.
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    actually, Rotella is damn good oil. not that i would use it as a preferred m/c oil, but it is not "the cheapest from Walmart", not by any means.

    glad you've got it taken care of.
    if convenient, be sure to stop in at Colorado Cherry Company in Pinewood Springs for some "home made" pie and/or panini sammiches (made on premises by hand) on your way out. That is, if going via US36 towards Lyons. That would set you up perfectly for taking 7W from Lyons to the top of South St. Vrain Canyon and back to Peak2Peak Hiway (119)- a very tasty morsel of a road is that stretch of 7!
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    I was looking for pie at Granby and points south. But by Empire I was frozen and with only 5 or 10 back to my room in Georgetown I didn't want to stop.
    Yes, I don't mean Rotella is cheap. Actually, I think they are all good and do the job, or a job, otherwise they couldn't or wouldn't sell it for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Would only let me post 1 pic?
    Cool. I love finding out I was given false info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by der verge View Post
    Cool. I love finding out I was given false info.
    Subject drift... you can only have one attachment per post. If you host your images on a third party site you can link to many images per post using the [url]...[/url] tags. Or were you talking about Castrol vs Spectro?

    As for oil... Just about any oil is better than no oil

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    I think at one time the BMW oil was Castrol, but then they went back to Spectro, or changed to it, I forget.
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    I think Meester Glaves explained it all pretty well in his post, #11 in this thread.
    Very confusing, it even has the "BMW recommends Castrol" on the back cover of my GT's owners manual.
    They recommend them but use someone else for their oil in North America, got it.
    I've always been a bit of a geek when it comes to reading labels, especially stuff that comes right from the manufacturer.
    The dealer clued me in to Spectro way back in the 80s, was on the bottle even back then.
    Price always seems pretty good to me, less than BMW even though we don't really know for sure if the additives are different.
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    You won't do any harm by adding a small amount of different oil. What Paul said is the important part- the rating, SG or whatever is specified for your bike. The world will not change it's direction of spin and cause us to all fall down if you mix in some dino with synthetic. After all, they do make and sell a blend of both.

    And I wouldn't even call your oil "low" with the line being at the bottom third of the sight glass.

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    I know it wasn't really low, but these bikes have a mind of their own. If they think they are low on oil, you can't change their mind. Only add a tad.
    Aha on the Castrol connection.
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    Some vehicles actually specify a limit on what "out of spec" stuff you can add though BMW bikes don't seem to be one.
    My VW TDI manual specs the only oil that currently meets the spec for their newest TDI motors and its made by Castrol and calls out the VW spec number on the label. The manual also says one can add 500 ml of any other diesel rated oil to top up- but no more- and repeats it so there is no doubt they're serious. Why they don't say but I suspect its the reduced lubricity of low sulfur diesel fuel that is driving their relatively new oil spec. Their spec oil is not particularly expensive so its not selling oil that's driving it.,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    P.S. I personally normally use Castrol dino "4T Four Stroke Motorcycle Oil" in the white bottle which I buy at Autozone for in the range of $5 per quart. I use it not because it says I should on the side of a BMW race car. I use it because it has an API SG rating as specified for our bikes, is fairly inexpensive, and is readily availabe even in a small town in far southwest Texas.
    I use that Castrol 4T based on your use of it, Paul. I figure if Voni can put a couple trillion miles on BMW's with you doing most of the maintenance, you'd know if it wasn't doing the job.

    Actually, I recently tried to switch my GS over to Mobil 1 at 12K miles, and it went through almost a quart in less than 3K. That after burning almost no 4T from 8K to 12K miles. So I dumped the Mobil 1, and went back to 4T in both bikes.

    I worked in the back end of car dealerships for about 10 years in my youth. I never met an engine mechanic who liked Penzoil, but I used their GT Performance 20W50 in my airhead for a couple decades with no problem.

    Oil threads are a good place to just ramble. Anyway, my local O'Reilly's just had the 4T on sale for $3.99. I bought so much that's what I'll be using the next few years.
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    This time of year now that the heat of summer is mostly over I would use 5W40 rotella. I will put it in for wither this weekend.

    And take out in march/April. Most winters is it only a 1000 or 1500 miles but last winter was a lot more. I almost got my moneys worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20715 View Post
    Oil threads are a good place to just ramble. Anyway, my local O'Reilly's just had the 4T on sale for $3.99. I bought so much that's what I'll be using the next few years.
    Oh boy. Now you done it. Here we go... Somebody's going to tell you that you wasted your money and they'll give you a lecture on the shelf life of oil.....

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    Well the oil was forming in the ground for several hundred thousand years, so shelf life ought to be a few years.
    Anyway, I added that 1/3 quart in Georgetown Colorado, and rode all around Colorado, then Utah, then thru' Arizona and Nevada and back to Los Angeles.
    With no further non check on the oil indicator.
    Every brief and few times the oil logo? came up the check was with it.
    I did look for the line a day or two ago and it was about 1/8 of an inch below the top of the glass.
    I'll have to check it now that I'm back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerfish1100 View Post
    actually, Rotella is damn good oil. not that i would use it as a preferred m/c oil...
    I agree, Rotella is good oil, so why not use it in a bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARGENT BRICK View Post
    I agree, Rotella is good oil, so why not use it in a bike?
    It's out of spec for several of our bikes.

    However, since BMW appears to be beginning to use European and Japanese specifications for oil on some (maybe all) newer models instead of the API specification some oils may now come into spec.

    5W40 is still too thin for most of our bikes (except in the winter).
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