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    Road repair: go to Walmart & buy the cheap but good!!! headband light (with 3 LED's,takes AAA batteries) & place in tank bag- which equals seeing what you are doing!

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    What about the tire repair kits that have the CO2 cartridges for filling the tire?

    I understand having the little compressor along, and I even own one of those myself, but wondering what people's opinions are of those kits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddog View Post
    What about the tire repair kits that have the CO2 cartridges for filling the tire?

    I understand having the little compressor along, and I even own one of those myself, but wondering what people's opinions are of those kits.
    Time to tell a Paul & Voni comedy act story. We were headed to a rally in Texas from Kansas. We were just pulling into a small town about 60 miles from the house when Voni pulled over. I did a U turn and went back. Her rear tire was flat. I looked around and across the road was a restaurant with a big empty parking lot and a row of trees for shade. I rode her bike over to the shade.

    I had 3 CO2 cartridges in my bike - she had three in hers. I put the bike on the center stand and rotated the tire to find the hole. I couldn't find it. So I used one cartridge so the escaping air would help locate the leak. Pssst! But I still couldn't locate the hole. It quit Psssting too soon. So I got a second cartridge and used it. Pssst again but I still wasn't quick enough to find the hole.

    Frustrated, I somewhat forcefully exclaimed, "If this $&!# keeps up I'm going to start carrying an electric pump". To which Voni replied, "OK, I'll go next door and buy one".

    With my tunnel vision intent to fix that tire I had absolutely failed to even notice that we were next door to an Alco (little big-box) store. She went and bought a pump for about $10. When I first tried to use it the flip handle for the connector on the hose broke off. $%^& #@%^&!!

    She calmly said, "No problem, I'll take it back and exchage it". Which she did.

    With the pump I could put in enough air to find the hole. I plugged the hole, pumped up the tire, and we went to the rally in Texas.

    I still have that pump, fifteen years later. It is in a case that is bigger than I like to carry in a bike, so it lives in the trunk of our car. We carry smaller newer pumps in the bikes. But I still have Voni's pump and use it every now and then.

    So, that's what I think of those little CO2 cartridges!
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    [QUOTE=Walking Eagle;822407]Uh, Paul, those aren't called "gummy worms" -- proper name is Gorilla Snot. When you gain more experience, you'll pick up more of the correct terminology, and will be able to communicate better. . . heck, you might even learn to do some wrenching, here and there!

    I believe "gummy worms" is the proper name. Gorilla Snot is the yellow 3M weatherstrip adhesive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Time to tell a Paul & Voni comedy act story. We were headed to a rally in Texas from Kansas. We were just pulling into a small town about 60 miles from the house when Voni pulled over. I did a U turn and went back. Her rear tire was flat. I looked around and across the road was a restaurant with a big empty parking lot and a row of trees for shade. I rode her bike over to the shade.

    I had 3 CO2 cartridges in my bike - she had three in hers. I put the bike on the center stand and rotated the tire to find the hole. I couldn't find it. So I used one cartridge so the escaping air would help locate the leak. Pssst! But I still couldn't locate the hole. It quit Psssting too soon. So I got a second cartridge and used it. Pssst again but I still wasn't quick enough to find the hole.

    Frustrated, I somewhat forcefully exclaimed, "If this $&!# keeps up I'm going to start carrying an electric pump". To which Voni replied, "OK, I'll go next door and buy one".

    With my tunnel vision intent to fix that tire I had absolutely failed to even notice that we were next door to an Alco (little big-box) store. She went and bought a pump for about $10. When I first tried to use it the flip handle for the connector on the hose broke off. $%^& #@%^&!!

    She calmly said, "No problem, I'll take it back and exchage it". Which she did.

    With the pump I could put in enough air to find the hole. I plugged the hole, pumped up the tire, and we went to the rally in Texas.

    I still have that pump, fifteen years later. It is in a case that is bigger than I like to carry in a bike, so it lives in the trunk of our car. We carry smaller newer pumps in the bikes. But I still have Voni's pump and use it every now and then.

    So, that's what I think of those little CO2 cartridges!

    The calm voice of reason. It's definitely a perq of being married to the right person.

    I always wanted an air compressor. One day, my wife comes home and says, "Hey, I bought you an air compressor. I got it at Walmart, wasn't very expensive, either." It was a little purple clamshell shaped compressor, the kind that you would take out the innards, and keep the the good stuff in your hardbag while traveling. What was I supposed to say? "Thanks, honey, how thoughtful!"

    The following year for Father's Day, I got a card from my wife with instructions on where to pick up my 6 HP, 33 gallon unit that she had purchased for me.

    The reason I asked about the CO2 kit is because I now have my very first ever motocycle with tubeless tires. Given the crap that gets dropped on the roads these days, I'm thinking it would be a good idea to be able to repair on the road, at least to the point of getting to a shop and a new tire. As far as riding my "tubed" bikes go, I've been lucky, and have always been home when I've noticed a tire that won't hold air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Tubeless tires I understand.

    I have had the best luck with the black or brown "gummy worm" type plugs that come in a plugging kit at almost any auto parts store. I like the kind labeled for belted radial tires because they are resistant to cutting if a tire has a steel belt. Get the kit with T handles if you can, and if you have room to carry them because they are easier to use than the kits with tools with screwdriver type handles.
    I heard Paul describe this same stuff at one of his tech seminars at Sedalia (sitting in an air-conditioned building that was quite cool ). I still went and spent the bucks for the stop and go tire repair kit and a more expensive pump. Then I could kick myself when I see the parts Paul described at KMart, etc for just a few bucks and also a portable air pump for $10 that was going for 30-40 at the rally.

    Pays to listen but it would have paid better if I would have waited and got the stuff at KMart.
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    The kits do not come with enough cartridges and carrying enough takes more space. 6 little one or 4 larger ones are what you'd better have if you even think about depending on them.
    Better to carry a pump like most of us do BUT be darn sure to test if by fully inflating at least 1 totally flat tire before trusting it. Many, especially the off brand cheapies, will blow breakers, overheat and burn out or quit, etc the first time asked to do the full job. Just testing to see if they work while plugged in briefly is not a good enough test...

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    Tire Repair

    I use the same as Paul, Wallmart T handle kit with the gummy worms. Never not worked. I have a small compressor from Best Rest to inflate the tire. I usually have to fix at least one flat each year. Yopu should also carry a small set of side cutters to remove the nail or screw.
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