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    "Enemy fighters at 2 o'clock!...Roger, What should i do until then?"

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    Author provides (and exhibits) no credentials and is sorely out of date as regards change intervals. In a real article one does not use "I hear" but rather provides citations, i.e. footnotes.

    Just for fun, compare to: http://papers.sae.org/2007-01-4133/
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    This guy doesn't seem to have any idea how viscosity is measured, or what the numbers on the top of the container actually mean (why the W in 10W-30). He never mentions viscosity index and contradicts himself when he says most engine wear occurs at startup (when the engine temp is the same as surrounding conditions) but ambient conditions should be ingnored.

    Liquid cooled engines tend to maintain a more uniform running temperature after warmup but the oil has to flow from the time the engine temp is the same as outside conditions (startup) to the time the thermostat opens.

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    I don't trust anyone who pushes Pennzoil products and owns both a Ferrari and a Lamborghini.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    Author provides (and exhibits) no credentials and is sorely out of date as regards change intervals. In a real article one does not use "I hear" but rather provides citations, i.e. footnotes.

    Just for fun, compare to: http://papers.sae.org/2007-01-4133/
    Require credible citations and references? That will end every oil and fuel thread on the forum.........

    OK, I'm good with that.
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    sounds like we have a few people that need to start a new oil thread that's correct , authoritative,i.e., footnoted & then we'll have a worthy target to start in again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 36654 View Post
    Require credible citations and references? That will end every oil and fuel thread on the forum.........

    OK, I'm good with that.

    +1.

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    "credible citations and references?"

    C'mon, man, this is the internet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls1150 View Post
    "credible citations and references?"

    C'mon, man, this is the internet!
    Yes, and you'll note if you want the full SAE article I linked to, you have to pay for it.

    Mostly on the Internet for sure we get what we pay for.

    And, you could note that the article linked provides DATA that today's motor oils become better lubricators the longer they remain in use. Radical, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    today's motor oils become better lubricators the longer they remain in use
    Just like people.........Cool.
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    Nothing to see here - move along...

    I'm posting so I can say I participated in an oil thread in 2012.

    I feel so - so, dirty....

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    And I feel so - so helpless.

    I was unable to control my mouse which moved inexorably to click on this thread in spite of my attempts to abort. Stop it! I don't read oil threads!! Well, OK. Just this one time.

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    Oil is good. Some oil is better than no oil. New oil is better than old oil. Good oil is better than bad oil.
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