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    15W-50 instead of 10W-40?

    OIL THREAD!

    Will the sun fall from the sky if I use 15W-50 in my K1600GTL? I have couple gallons left from my RT.
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    It depends who you talk to, or in this case who responds to your question.

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    I have serious doubts, the engine will recognize the difference. Depending on where you live and what temperatures you ride in, the 15-50 may actually be a better choice (high temp advantage). I use 20W50 in all my bikes except my old HD shovelhead sidecar rig, which only gets 60W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluegrassPicker View Post
    OIL THREAD!

    Will the sun fall fro the sky if I use 15W-50 in my K1600GTL? I have couple gallons left from my RT.
    Every vehicle owners manual I've ever looked at has an oil weight vs. temperature chart.
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    It does and you should check your owners manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommcgee View Post
    Every vehicle owners manual I've ever looked at has an oil weight vs. temperature chart.
    It specifies 10W-40 for warm weather , but says nothing about the sun falling out of the sky...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommcgee View Post
    Every vehicle owners manual I've ever looked at has an oil weight vs. temperature chart.
    I think you mean "oil viscosity vs. temperature."

    The numbers 0, 5, 10, 15 and 25 are suffixed with the letter W, designating their "winter" (not "weight") or cold-start viscosity, at lower temperature.

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    Oil viscosity

    I believe the first number in a multigrade oil is an indication of viscosity grade (weight - not winter) of the base oil without the viscosity improvers (VI). The second number is the resultant weight with the VI additives. Multigrade oils with VI additives maintain a more consistant viscosity as the temperature of the oil changes. Modern engines are designed with bearing clearances and cam/follower profiles that require the multigrade oils. The synthetics also retain a flatter viscosity vs oil temperature and they don't break down as rapidly. However, they still get dirty just as fast and they are just as susceptable to fuel dilution as non-synthetics. I just had a used oil sample from by GTL (5w40 synthetic) analyzed after 5000 miles and the viscosity had dropped from 14.5 to 10.4 due to fuel dilution. Time for an oil change.

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    This isn't even a entertaining oil thread

    I know you guys can do better than this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rburrahm View Post
    I believe the first number in a multigrade oil is an indication of viscosity grade (weight - not winter) of the base oil without the viscosity improvers (VI).
    Nope ... W means winter.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil

    Scroll down to "Grades"
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    Oil Supplier

    You are not required to use BMW oil, omly oil that meets the correst viscosity and grades. There are many good quality oils that do this for less money.
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    I wouldn't hesitAte in the summer around here but I wouldn't want it in the cold

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    Talking Warranty

    Ask the BMW dealer-

    You will Void your Warranty!!!


    All dealers have a viscosity checker if you use the incorrect weight oil they will know right away.

    Believe it!!!

    It's your bike you need to do what is best should not hurt the engine.
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    What a drag

    I agree that it should not hurt the engine, but they specify a certain weight for a reason. At the least, the engine (or at least the oil) will run a bit hotter, and there will be a very slight decrease in fuel mileage.

    Heavier oil is thicker... thicker oil increases friction... friction = heat and drag... heat and drag reduce mileage.

    You may not even notice it, but it will be there. Personally, I'd sell the oil to a buddy who needs that weight, and use what the factory recommends. However, it's your bike...
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    liquid cooled engines generally use lighter oil. They have tighter clearances.

    The flow rate of 15W50 is lower, this can cause bearings to overheat, also reduces and delays the flow of oil to the heads.

    Get the right oil. Odds are it would be fine but risking warranty on a new EXPENSIVE motorcycle over some leftover oil, I would not do it.

    Rod

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