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    Quote Originally Posted by sedanman View Post
    From Wikipedia, The Suzuki Hayabusa (or GSX1300R) is a sport bike motorcycle made by Suzuki since 1999. It immediately won acclaim as the world's fastest production motorcycle, with a top speed of 188 to 194 miles per hour (303 to 312 km/h).

    Hayabusa (隼?) is Japanese for "peregrine falcon", a bird that often serves as a metaphor for speed due to its vertical hunting dive, or stoop, speed of 180 to 202 miles per hour (290 to 325 km/h), the fastest of any bird.[6][7] In particular, the choice of name was made because the peregrine falcon preys on blackbirds,[8] which reflected the intent of the original Hayabusa to unseat the Honda CBR1100XX Super Blackbird as the world's fastest production motorcycle.[9][10][11] Eventually, the Hayabusa managed to surpass the Super Blackbird by at least a full 10 miles per hour (16 km/h).[4][12]

    In 2000, fears of a European regulatory backlash or import ban[13][14][15] led to an informal agreement between the Japanese and European manufacturers to govern the top speed of their motorcycles at an arbitrary limit.[16]

    The media-reported value for the speed agreement in miles per hour was consistently 186 mph, while in kilometers per hour it varied from 299 to 303 km/h, which is typical given unit conversion rounding errors. This figure may also be affected by a number of external factors,[17] as can the power and torque values.[18]

    The conditions under which this limitation was adopted led to the 1999ÔÇô2000[2][3] Hayabusa's title remaining, at least technically, unassailable, since no subsequent model could go faster without being tampered with.[19] Thus, after the much anticipated[20][21][22] Kawasaki Ninja ZX-12R of 2000 fell 4 mph (6 km/h) short of claiming the title, the Hayabusa secured its place as the fastest standard production bike of the 20th century.[23][24][25] This gives the unrestricted 1999ÔÇô2000[2][3] models even more cachet with collectors.[26]

    Besides its speed, the Hayabusa has been lauded by many reviewers for its all-around performance, in that it does not drastically compromise other qualities like handling, comfort, reliability, noise, fuel economy or price in pursuit of a single function.[5][27][28] Jay Koblenz of Motorcycle Consumer News commented, "If you think the ability of a motorcycle to approach 190 mph or reach the quarter-mile in under 10 seconds is at best frivolous and at worst offensive, this still remains a motorcycle worthy of just consideration. The Hayabusa is Speed in all its glory. But Speed is not all the Hayabusa is."[27]


    I don't think anything goes faster than 186 mph in U.S. with a stock ECU. Add a PowerCommander or other such device and yes, you can over-rule the ECU speed limit.
    My friends bone stock S1000 exceeds 186 mph on a race track. MV Agusta too. I am aware of the gentleman's agreement, but it has been ignored in the case of the bikes upon which WSBK is based.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David13 View Post
    Hey man, a guy has got to ride.
    I suppose it was a Hayabusa. There were other stories of the same I think from Wisconsin or MN a few years ago. On a Hayabusa.
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    The instance you refer to was in MN on a stretch of road I regularly ride for pleasure. The bike was a Honda (CBR or VFR I do not recall). The speed he was originally was ticketed for was clocked by a state highway patrol plane. The rider was the son of a LEO from another jurisdiction. The ticket was challenged (The rider enlisted the help of his dealer in White Bear Lake MN and their dyno to prove the bike was not capable of the ticketed speed.) and eventually settled through a plea agreement.

    The fallout for the rider in the plea agreement had a fixed period of time and dollar amount attached to it. The fall out for the sport riders that legally enjoy sport riding in the larger area of the ticket has gone on for years.

    I do not share the hang him high mentality. I do not share the attitude of any who would give any kind of 'props' to him for clocking such a speed.

    I do have GREAT sympathy for sport riders in that area; riders that strive to carve the perfect apex in corners, within their lanes, within legal speed limits and within the limits of their skill sets while trying to improve them. You will be the subject of unexpected pull overs, checks at gas and rest stops and more.
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    Must have been the s1000RR as it has a rain mode, right.

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    As long as he wasn't texting while riding.

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    I once was following a Greyhound bus for miles on the hwy from Lawrence,KS to Topeka in the 60's and having passed through a speed trap(the old stop watch kind) I was stopped & told I was going far beyond what was possible by my bike or that road would allow. Maybe it was the same cop in NY? I doubt it but maybe they had the same math teacher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewmeister View Post
    Off subject sort of,does radar work correctly when it's raining?I did'nt think so but I may be wrong. It may depend on how hard it's raining?
    Sufficiently hard rain can reduce the range radar can receive an echo from.
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    Talking ???

    Isn't anybody else thinking, "No matter how crazy my wife and friends think I am, I'm not that crazy! TA. effingDA?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mika View Post
    FWIW:
    The instance you refer to was in MN on a stretch of road I regularly ride for pleasure. The bike was a Honda (CBR or VFR I do not recall). The speed he was originally was ticketed for was clocked by a state highway patrol plane. The rider was the son of a LEO from another jurisdiction. The ticket was challenged (The rider enlisted the help of his dealer in White Bear Lake MN and their dyno to prove the bike was not capable of the ticketed speed.) and eventually settled through a plea agreement.

    The fallout for the rider in the plea agreement had a fixed period of time and dollar amount attached to it. The fall out for the sport riders that legally enjoy sport riding in the larger area of the ticket has gone on for years.

    I do not share the hang him high mentality. I do not share the attitude of any who would give any kind of 'props' to him for clocking such a speed.

    I do have GREAT sympathy for sport riders in that area; riders that strive to carve the perfect apex in corners, within their lanes, within legal speed limits and within the limits of their skill sets while trying to improve them. You will be the subject of unexpected pull overs, checks at gas and rest stops and more.
    It was a Honda RC51, and he was clocked from a plane using a stopwatch at 205 MPH. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that wasn't how fast he was going. Remember that he was also a Washington County deputy's son.

    Supposedly, around the Twin Cities here, there are groups of sportbikers that go out in the middle of the night and tear around the cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26667 View Post
    Isn't anybody else thinking, "No matter how crazy my wife and friends think I am, I'm not that crazy! TA. effingDA?"
    Me...
    That kid was nuts at the least and just plain felony stupid. That should have been his conviction: driving fast, recklessness, endangering self and others, and felony stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddog View Post
    It was a Honda RC51, and he was clocked from a plane using a stopwatch at 205 MPH. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that wasn't how fast he was going. Remember that he was also a Washington County deputy's son.

    Supposedly, around the Twin Cities here, there are groups of sportbikers that go out in the middle of the night and tear around the cities.
    It is not confined to Twin Cities. Los Angeles at night;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcDfY...eature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANmy3437ZSg

    I've touched a buck forty at night in LA on occasion on my trusty old K-100RS, and many moons ago lost a San Diego cop on a freeway there, on an old Euro spec R-100 with high compression, sport cams and big valves. Lost him like a bad habit in a curvy Mission Valley interchange, then got right off the freeway and disappeared into a residential neighborhood. Don't worry, the statute of limitations is long past for these "crimes".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddog View Post
    It was a Honda RC51, and he was clocked from a plane using a stopwatch at 205 MPH. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that wasn't how fast he was going. Remember that he was also a Washington County deputy's son.

    Supposedly, around the Twin Cities here, there are groups of sportbikers that go out in the middle of the night and tear around the cities.
    Thanks for the details. I know there was a thread on the forum when it happened which I posted reports. I was just to lazy to search for it.

    There are several locations in the TC as you point out. The night scene moves about. One is Shepard Road along the river. Inold the middle of the night the sound of bikes winding up will fill the river valley then sometimes sirens but not often.

    This has gone on as long as I know. My brother, 20 years older than I, had stories of street racing when he came back from the Korean War. In the late 60's early 70's downtown St. Paul was full of street racers before they changed the streets. Lake Street in Minneapolis and University Avenue. Just some of the places we ...err I heard about street racing in those days.
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    Sorry not possible........Yes in perfect conditions a Hayabusa might go that fast....and it might go 160 pretty quick....but that last 30 MPH is a beyotch.....Taking massive HP to push that much air. In the rain? Yeah right?

    MV Agusta going that fast? Nope, sorry?
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