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    BMW Seat Technology

    I'm sitting here watching a show on CNBC about the BMW car. The story just talked about the design of the seat. A Phd runs the program and has all sorts of diagnostic tools to make the perfect seat. Considering the stock BMW motorcycle seat, I appreciate the irony. It makes me wonder how BMW designs the seat. Are European backsides that different from US types?
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    Time will tell me ...

    If I am part of the don't like BMW bike seat or not.

    On the rides so far, up to 600 km in a day, I have no reason to change seats. Lowered the pegs for knee pain relief, as have many others. On my yr 2000 Triumph, had the seat rebuilt to add height for knee pain, not for comfort.

    I'm just over 200 pounds, but narrow in the hips and probably smaller in the buttocks than the weight would indicate. Maybe there is a cross-Atlantic thing going on. Anyone know for sure? Must be some ergonomic experts here...

    Cross US and Canada trip in June - will see if I become a seat hater or not. I sure hope I continue to find it not an issue, because I sure won't be able to fix it while on the trip, will I?
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    Original seats on my R60/6, R1200 CLC, R1200RT - never a problem with any. I'm 170 lbs., skinny butt, though...big miles on all but the RT, 27,000 on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 83014 View Post
    I'm sitting here watching a show on CNBC about the BMW car. The story just talked about the design of the seat. A Phd runs the program and has all sorts of diagnostic tools to make the perfect seat. Considering the stock BMW motorcycle seat, I appreciate the irony. It makes me wonder how BMW designs the seat. Are European backsides that different from US types?
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    Another seat thread...

    It has got to be individual, and is probably a lot harder for BMW to get it right on the beemers than on the bimmers, and I have both.

    On my R1200RT, riding the OEM seat, if I could get over 200 miles/day, I considered it a good day. I tried the Beadrider which helped some, and the Alaska leathers pad which seemed to do nothing for me. I even put the two of them together, with indifferent results. My butt hurt so much at the end of the day, I took to riding through small towns standing up just for some relief. At 6'4" and 225# w/full ATGATT, I bet that was a sight!

    I went for the Russell Day-Long after long consideration. After break-in (1,000 miles) I was soon doing 400+ mile/days without a problem. After I'd ridden it for about 8000 miles, I asked for some adjustment in position. Russell asked for more photos, then turned the seat around with the adjustments in about 1.5 weeks, no charge. A good responsive company. Usually you can find a 20% off group buy on some site during the Winter.

    I imagine other members will have good things to say about other aftermarket seats. Finding those who like the OEM R1200RT seat might be a rarity.

    Anyway, just one opinion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerfish1100 View Post
    as the old saying goes, one picture is worth a thousand words.....
    Looks like the US version should require less padding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExGMan View Post
    It has got to be individual...
    Boy is that correct! The stock seat on every BMW I've had was just fine, no adjustment or change needed at all.

    Then I got the R12R, and the stock seat was just awful. I got a Rich's, and all's well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbrick View Post
    Boy is that correct! The stock seat on every BMW I've had was just fine, no adjustment or change needed at all.
    Ditto. It's you, not the bike.

    There are aftermarket seats for cars, too, just a lot more expensive.

    Criticism of BMW seats is inane and boring.
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    Not my experiance..

    I needed the low seat for my '12RT. What BMW supplied me with is a complete joke for a seat. There is barely any seat pan to sit on and very little padding covering that. About the thickness of the cover. It is only good for 2 hours tops. But I knew that before I ordered the bike so the only surprize was how bad the low seat really is. A Rick Mayer seat is on order.

    On my 83 I kept the stock seat for about 20 years. It became unbearable so it got replaced with a Bill Mayer and is 200% better than stock.

    The seats in BMW cars are very comfortable but they really have cheapened the bike seats.
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    I hear tell that as we age our behinds get more bony & less padded. Do the seat manufacturers ask the age of those they are fabricating seats for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post

    Criticism of BMW seats is inane and boring.
    Not sure why you consider a factor that makes or breaks the the ride(r) inane or boring. Single most common complaint from folks about the BMW going back a long way is the unpleasant sitting experience.

    I've had stock seats on two other brands so far and both stock BMW seats leave a lot to be desired. I've also owned two VWs whose stock seats were excruciating after 3 hours. Seems to be a German thing.

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    I think we complain about the seats on our BMWs because we ride them differently than we did the other brands of bikes we had before we got them. The six Asian bikes I had before I got my first BMW all had horrible seats. The worst seat I ever had was on a 84 Honda Magna V45. It was a good thing that it had a small gas tank with horrible gas mileage that caused me to buy gas every 110 miles. The 4 BMWs I had were bought to ride much longer distances and my expectations for a good seat were greater. Only 2 of the 4 BMWs I have had had stock seats on them when I got them. The 92 K75RT had a horrible seat that I replaced with a great Russell. My current R1200CLC has a stock comfortable seat on it.
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    The seat on my RT was bad, but not awful. The seat on my GS/A is a medieval torture device. I'm 6'2", 200 pounds and after about an hour the seat foam has compressed to the point that I'm hitting the seat pan over every bump in the road. That's pathetic.

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    1200gs seat was pure torture, six day 2000 mile ride ready to shoot the bike
    Bill Mayer was able to fix that
    One would think by the pure numbers of complaints BMW would come up with a better seat.
    Funny how when my local dealer has a demo day their is usually a custom seat maker their

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvpc View Post
    I needed the low seat for my '12RT. What BMW supplied me with is a complete joke for a seat. There is barely any seat pan to sit on and very little padding covering that. About the thickness of the cover. It is only good for 2 hours tops. But I knew that before I ordered the bike so the only surprize was how bad the low seat really is. A Rick Mayer seat is on order.

    On my 83 I kept the stock seat for about 20 years. It became unbearable so it got replaced with a Bill Mayer and is 200% better than stock.

    The seats in BMW cars are very comfortable but they really have cheapened the bike seats.

    Went out to the garage to check my low seat. Padding the thickness of the cover? This is a huge exaggeration. I can compress the padding on my low seat anywhere and not come near bottoming out on the pan. Don't know if the seat that comes with a lowered suspension is as thin as you say, but the low seat / ESA suspension is not anywhere near cover thin. Do you have the low suspension?
    Ed
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