Try first gear. I bought a pair in Feb.'12 for 145 that were made in 12/11. They are baggy in the legs but an ajustable waist. I am 5'10 195 and bought the 36 waist pants that are perforated mesh with waterproff liner with armour. May not look like the European slime fit, but they are comfy and at $145, a good deal.


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