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    Laser Jammers vs Radar Detectors

    If you could only buy one, a radar detector or a laser jammer, which would you choose and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVEINEDER View Post
    If you could only buy one, a radar detector or a laser jammer, which would you choose and why?
    Radar detectors work, laser jammes DO NOT! I have never seen a credible test showing a Laser jammer doing anything but draining ones wallet.


    NOW if they did work, Radar detector for sure, I encounter 200 radar set ups to every 1 laser encounter, if not more. Laser is primarily used on Interstates and major highways, and I do not ride interstates, and avoid major highways like the plague.

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    Valentine 1. They do not violate federal law and work. Most so-called jammers do nothing. Those that do are transmitters that violate the law.

    I run a V-1. There are others out there that are at least as good in detection, sensitivity and false signal rejection but to my knowledge, the V-1 is the only one that actually shows you how many and where they're located.
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    Laser Jammers vs radar detectors

    Thanks for the feedback on the laser Jammers. Also good info on the valentine 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommcgee View Post
    Here we go again...
    If you know of a thread on this topic, please share it.

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    Here's a current thread from the Rennlist (Porsche) site. There are some laser jammer units that work well:

    http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...r-jammers.html

    There are a number of older threads in the 993 subsection as well, with some of our members swearing by their jammers.

    ...which would you choose, and why...DVEINEDER
    The radar detecter is your first choice, as there are more radar sets around than lasers, and radar detecters will pick up radar miles away, under the right conditions. If you can afford it, a jammer is nice, for additional protection. A radar/laser detecter may help you against laser if you have a scout in front of you who gets lasered, but otherwise not. As soon as you hear and see the signal detection, you've already been clocked.

    I've done a lot of research into this topic, and JIMO, the best, cost effective unit is a Valentine V1, if used behind a scout. I have an Escort 8500 X50, and it, and other detecters before it, have saved me dozens of tickets over the years. My usual practise is to follow a scout, by a few hundred metres, depending on the situation.
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    Radar vs. Laser

    Radar works by sending a radio signal out and waiting on the signal to bounce back to the patrol car. The Radar unit calculates the amount of time it takes for the signal to return, adjusts for the speed of the patrol car (If it is moving) and provides the operator with the speed of the target vehicle. The tough part here here is that it returns the signal from the largest target. A motorcycle passing a Semi is hard for the unit to detect, because the signal is returning from the semi. The reason Radar detectors are effective is because not all of the RF (Radio Frequency) emitted from the unit is returned. Some of it keeps on wandering out there for 2-3 miles, past the effective range of the radar unit. When your Radar detector goes off, it is indicating that it is receiving a radio signal within the appropriate frequency range for a Law Enforcement Radar unit. There are some other things in this frequency range as well (automatic door oopeners on grocery stores, etc...) which will also give an indication. So, in summary a quality Radar detector will keep you out of trouble most of the time. If you are the lone vehicle on the road and the Officer leaves the emitter turned off until he see's you, your detector will go off but it is too late.
    As for Laser, Laser is very target specific and line of sight. It must be operated from a stationary position. The Officer places the target vehicle in the crosshairs (yes, it has a scope) and pulls the trigger. The unit immediately returns the speed and distance to the target vehicle. Ergo, Laser detctors are very good at telling you that you just got nabbed, but provide no warning that one is in use and that you should slow down.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsnewberry View Post
    Ergo, Laser detctors are very good at telling you that you just got nabbed, but provide no warning that one is in use and that you should slow down.
    Or, if you are following another vechicle who gets lasered, you may pick up residual from the laser.
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    I've been driving with a Class A commercial license for so long and used to maintaining a 55-60 mph speed that it's almost impossible for me to drive any faster.

    The uphsot being I don't worry about radar traps. Of course I also have an almost overwhelming tendency to pull into scales... .. .
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    ...you may pick up residual from the laser...Ken F
    IIRC, I've read some posts to this effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken F View Post
    Or, if you are following another vechicle who gets lasered, you may pick up residual from the laser.
    I drive a lot and that's only happened to me once in the 3 or 4 years the state police have been using it in Massachusetts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsnewberry View Post
    Radar works by sending a radio signal out and waiting on the signal to bounce back to the patrol car. The Radar unit calculates the amount of time it takes for the signal to return, adjusts for the speed of the patrol car (If it is moving) and provides the operator with the speed of the target vehicle. The tough part here here is that it returns the signal from the largest target. A motorcycle passing a Semi is hard for the unit to detect, because the signal is returning from the semi. The reason Radar detectors are effective is because not all of the RF (Radio Frequency) emitted from the unit is returned. Some of it keeps on wandering out there for 2-3 miles, past the effective range of the radar unit. When your Radar detector goes off, it is indicating that it is receiving a radio signal within the appropriate frequency range for a Law Enforcement Radar unit. There are some other things in this frequency range as well (automatic door oopeners on grocery stores, etc...) which will also give an indication. So, in summary a quality Radar detector will keep you out of trouble most of the time. If you are the lone vehicle on the road and the Officer leaves the emitter turned off until he see's you, your detector will go off but it is too late.
    As for Laser, Laser is very target specific and line of sight. It must be operated from a stationary position. The Officer places the target vehicle in the crosshairs (yes, it has a scope) and pulls the trigger. The unit immediately returns the speed and distance to the target vehicle. Ergo, Laser detctors are very good at telling you that you just got nabbed, but provide no warning that one is in use and that you should slow down.

    Hope this helps.
    I have heard/read that most radar guns are instant on these days. Like the laser, by the time the detector goes off, the cops got you--if in fact it was you he/she was going after. I could be wrong, but that's what I've heard. Also, Mythbusters did a show on beating the radar gun, and nothing worked--if my memory serves me right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88bmwJeff View Post
    I have heard/read that most radar guns are instant on these days.
    There are still plenty of the old style radar systems out there. Instant on isn't usually a threat if there's traffic. You get intermittent alerts. My Escort has a voice that says "pop alert" when there is a sudden radar signal.
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    From what I've found, your best defense still, is following a fast "front door", about a quarter to half mile behind. (someone running in front of you) If they get shot, you will pick it up.

    Now, the falacy to this is -if you are the last in line, you are likely the first to get stopped too!

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