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    Concerns about buying K1600GT the first year

    I am very interested in the K1600GT. I am also nervous about buying any vehicle, bike, car, truck, the first year it is available. Does anyone have any thoughts/opinions on the new GT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyjimmy View Post
    I am very interested in the K1600GT. I am also nervous about buying any vehicle, bike, car, truck, the first year it is available. Does anyone have any thoughts/opinions on the new GT?
    I have a GTL. The K16 has its first-year problems (although, IMO, fewer than "normal").

    Simple choice: enjoy the bike now with all its flaws, or wait until 2013, by which time 1/2 the flaws will be gone (or 2014 for 3/4 flaws, etc).

    I chose the former, expecting problems, and thus was mentally prepared to deal with them. It helps that I have other bikes I can ride if/when there's a issue.

    YMMV.
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    I took delivery of my K16GT early January and now with nearly 1,000 miles on it, it is flawless with one exception - there's an audio system on the bike that includes an iPod interface that doesn't work. If that will ruin the experience for you then wait to own what is the most amazing machine on two wheels. I still can't believe the level of performance and comfort of this bike. The experience just keeps getting better the longer I ride it.

    Wes

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittsDriver View Post
    with one exception - there's an audio system on the bike that includes an iPod interface that doesn't work. If that will ruin the experience for you then wait to own what is the most
    Rumor has it there should be a firmware fix for the iPod issue in the next month or so. In the meantime, a USB flash drive works fine, giving 80% of the functionality/convenience of the iPod/iPhone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mneblett View Post
    Rumor has it there should be a firmware fix for the iPod issue in the next month or so. In the meantime, a USB flash drive works fine, giving 80% of the functionality/convenience of the iPod/iPhone.
    I've heard that rumor as well but I'm not sure I believe it. It's my wild guess that this problem will require a swap out of the Alpine radio to fix it.

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    My buddy has a K16GTL and loves it. I bought a 2005 R12RT, and that had a LOT of first year issues. All of those issues were resolved to my satisfaction, and I love the bike, now with 60k miles

    I agree with the previous poster. Enjoy it now, or wait. If you have a good bike now, waiting is not a big deal. If you don't, waiting is hard!
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    http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=57993 dirtyjimmy, I truly love my K1600GT, but I would advise you wait until Year 2013 until BMW has parts for this bike!

    If you read my thread above, you will see my 2012 has been sidelined for 5 months now.

    You cannot even get a radiator expansion tank for a new K1600, good luck with a muffler.

    BMW Motorrad AG and BMW NA literally sold these K16 machines with NO PARTS BACKUP!

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    Letter was sent to customerservice@bmwmotorcycles.com and by Certified US Mail

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    February 25, 2012

    Vice President Hans Blesse
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    P. O. Box 1227
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    Dear Mr. Blesse,

    I wish to congratulate and applaud your being promoted as the Vice President of BMW Motorrad USA.

    Hope your new position works professionally to your utmost satisfaction and your personal fulfillment.

    However, you now face a extremely serious and endemic problem within the ranks of BMW Motorrad.

    BMW Motorrad USA absolutely has no ability to deliver replacement parts necessary to keep new BMW Models roadworthy. My 2012 BMW K1600GT was disabled due to a deer strike on 10/13/11.

    My moto has sat at BMW of Salt Lake City, Utah for five months now simply due to BMW Motorrad Germany being unable and unwilling to supply a replacement radiator expansion coolant tank: $40.00.

    It's incomprehensible, and irresponsible of BMW Motorrad, they can sell a Customer a machine for $28,500: But they cannot even provide a simple plastic jug for over a year to keep the bike operational.

    http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread.php?t=57993 http://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw-...0gt-parts.html http://www.azbeemers.org/forum/index.php?topic=3585.0 On January 24 I called out for help to the following BMW Forum Organizations that I belong to: BMW Motorcycle Owners of America, BMW K1600 Forum and BMW MOA Chartered Club #89 AZ Beemers. There are 4 pages each of comments regarding my bike's downtime situation at each of these sites. Please, do read them.

    Mr. Blesse, here is what you'll discover when you read these dozen pages: I'm not alone in this BMW Motorrad Lack of Parts Availability Problem, this BMW fiasco is so widespread and affecting so many.

    I have been a BMW Owner since 1969 when I bought my R60/2 in Augsburg, Germany. My first BMW shop was in the Altstadt of Munich. Since then I have tirelessly promoted the sales of BMW's.

    In 43 years of riding BMW, over 500K miles on BMW, I've talked so many people into buying BMW.

    This has now come to a final end, I cannot promote BMW due to it's lack of supply of necessary parts.

    I still do not have my 2012 BMW K1600GT back to me, how can I support BMW after this situation?

    I sadly do not believe that BMW could spell Customer Support if you gave them the U's, O's or the E.

    I'm very sad over this tragic and senseless predicament, loyal BMW Customers shouldn't have to wait a full year to get a replacement coolant tank and certainly not 16 months to get a new left BMW muffler.

    Don Stanley, Chandler, AZ beemerdons@aol.com Cell: 480-440-4666 MOA/24810 BMWRA/21856.
    Don Stanley; aka Chuy Medina "El Burrito Ballerina"
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    Not trying to start an argument, but have you considered getting a coolant tank from a totalled out 1600? I know I have seen a couple that have been sent to BMW heaven and they might have a good tank on them? Kind of surprised by the lack of customer support from BMW on this. If a dealer needs an unavailable H-D part for a current year production bike they will pull one off the line and send it to the dealer to get the customer going.

    Rick H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motorcop@wi.rr.com View Post
    Not trying to start an argument, but have you considered getting a coolant tank from a totalled out 1600? I know I have seen a couple that have been sent to BMW heaven and they might have a good tank on them? Kind of surprised by the lack of customer support from BMW on this. If a dealer needs an unavailable H-D part for a current year production bike they will pull one off the line and send it to the dealer to get the customer going.

    Rick H.
    If you can send me a link for a radiator expansion coolant tank from a totalled out K1600, I would pursue it! I searched at a number of sites and did not find any wrecked K16's! Here are the two search engines that I have used: http://claz.org/ and www.searchtempest.com I found NO salvage K1600's.
    Don Stanley; aka Chuy Medina "El Burrito Ballerina"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemerdons View Post
    I truly love my K1600GT, but I would advise you wait until Year 2013 until BMW has parts for this bike!
    I must admit I never thought of this problem!
    Rob C. , Raleigh, NC
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoboRider View Post
    I must admit I never thought of this problem!
    RoboRider, "Gisele" is an incredible moto, but BMW has no parts available for her!!

    Don Stanley; aka Chuy Medina "El Burrito Ballerina"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beemerdons View Post
    If you can send me a link for a radiator expansion coolant tank from a totalled out K1600, I would pursue it! I searched at a number of sites and did not find any wrecked K16's! Here are the two search engines that I have used: http://claz.org/ and www.searchtempest.com I found NO salvage K1600's.
    There's a wrecked K16GT sitting at Bob's BMW in Maryland that had less than 500 miles on it. A bud here got into some BMW on BMW violence when a 3 series tried to merge into a traffic circle right into the side of this white GT. Call 'em up as I'm sure it'll be going to salvage if it hasn't already. The bike was totaled with damage to the engine on the right side.

    Wes

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    I'll confess that I thought long and hard about buying something else and swapping back to a K16GT for 2013/14 but man, right now, I'm so happy I put this bike on order. It's nothing less than magical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PittsDriver View Post
    There's a wrecked K16GT sitting at Bob's BMW in Maryland that had less than 500 miles on it. A bud here got into some BMW on BMW violence when a 3 series tried to merge into a traffic circle right into the side of this white GT. Call 'em up as I'm sure it'll be going to salvage if it hasn't already. The bike was totaled with damage to the engine on the right side.

    Wes
    Many thanks Wes, I am on it!
    Don Stanley; aka Chuy Medina "El Burrito Ballerina"
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    K1600gt ??

    After 1800 miles,there are a few glitches. My XM has stopped working. There is a propietary BMW cable to connect your Ipod. However,due to the close proximity of the IPOD location,lower right fairing pocket,it overheats the ipod after about 20 minutes of use. Other than those electronic gremlins and poor design,this bike rocks. I;ve owned my share of bmw's as well as everything else out there.

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