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    BMW Resale Values - Questionable?

    Greetings all,

    Over the course of the past few months, I've read numerous posts concerning the purported poor resale value of BMW motorcycles...

    I've not personally witnessed this, and quite frankly, I was/am surprised to learn of this. BMW automobiles have relatively high/strong resale values. Im a bit confused. Yeah, I know, apples and oranges, but given the brand name, there should be some similarities...

    I find this somewhat perplexing, inasmuch that I was always under the impression that limited availability/unique design and engineering, drives the resale market. The last I checked, BMW motorcycles are not omnipresent...

    I'd appreciate some input concerning this matter.

    Is there some truth to this?

    Tks/Best,

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    Sometimes it is about the mileage on the bike.

    When they came out with odometers that would go over 100,000 miles without going back to zero it made it hard to sell a low mileage BMW.

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    Likely grousing from those who think a motorcycle is an investment, not a purchase to be enjoyed.
    yeah, prices are down a bit on 10 year old oilheads. just like on everything else that is 10 years old.
    and if you paid full retail at the dealer, and you want to trade it in 2 years later, yeah, you're gonna get hosed.
    prices on used bikes in general have been down since the recession, and will likely stay down for some time to come. i do not see it as a BMW thing, but more as a general condition of the economy thing.
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    Have to disagree on the CAR resell value being so good (or better). BMW cars really take a hit when the 4 year and/or 50,000 mile warrant ends. They are one of the most expensive vehicles to maintain (after those years and miles) and breakdown repairs can be crazy high. Those two items hurt resell as potential customers are fewer and further in between. They have costs concerns and rightfully so. If BMW didn't have their "free" maintenance and breakdown coverage for first four years or 50,000 miles, there'd be a lot fewer dealers and BMW cars on the road.

    The bikes are some what the same, but any motorcycle can be an expensive toy, be it Japanese, European or domestic for that matter. They are much like a boat from that perspective. They take "luxury" money to maintain and repair. That's why we don't buy motorcycles and boats, we buy the "fun" they afford us. That's also how they are marketed.

    Many would argue, especially on a motorcycle forum, but motorcycles are a luxury and certainly not a requirement. Luxury markets are smaller markets, with money yes, but with less demand.

    All this said, "fun" cost money if you seek it on a motorcycle instead of playing stick ball in the backyard with the grandkids. All part of having fun.
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    Right now the economy sucks for lots of people, and even BMW riders are not immune. I have received several unsolicited queries as to whether I wanted to buy a bike from a person with economic distress. More sellers. And potential buyers who don't need to sell a bike but sure aren't about to buy another right now are not immune. Fewer buyers. That means lower transaction prices in most markets, like it or not.

    It's not just BMWs. It is all brands of motorcycles. And many brands of cars. Recent data is heavily skewed by the great recession.
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    IMHO a bike is worth what you can get for it. In this day of uncertainty there are not as many buyers, therefor prices are down; unless you have something special to sell. Then all bets are off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerfish1100 View Post
    Likely grousing from those who think a motorcycle is an investment, not a purchase to be enjoyed.
    yeah, prices are down a bit on 10 year old oilheads. just like on everything else that is 10 years old.
    and if you paid full retail at the dealer, and you want to trade it in 2 years later, yeah, you're gonna get hosed.
    prices on used bikes in general have been down since the recession, and will likely stay down for some time to come. i do not see it as a BMW thing, but more as a general condition of the economy thing.
    Exactly. If you are buying new then selling 2 or 3 years later- it isn't going to be fun or good $$

    Bought a '93 K1100RS 5 years ago then sold it (stupidly!) 2 years ago. Sold it for what I paid for it.

    Moral of the story- if money is important, be patient and look for what you want.....used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brewmeister View Post
    My comment on the older oilheads 94-2000 .The amount of hastle to lube the clutch splines and cost if you can't /don't do it as discussed here will scare certain folks away from them and lower the price unless you can proove proper maintenence was performed. As for the airheads its pretty much the same,how well/proper it is maintained and mileage will dictate the price.
    I'll bite. I doubt that's true as more people don't belong to this club that would be looking , than do & some of them don't read what you & me do anyway. People buy shine to a large extent. I was waiting on my car(recalled HL's) other day, & looking @ new Volvo's to kill some time in the sun, salesguy says "they have great resale value". I bet they are really rolling off the lot these days???

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    Quote Originally Posted by widebmw View Post
    Sometimes it is about the mileage on the bike.

    When they came out with odometers that would go over 100,000 miles without going back to zero it made it hard to sell a low mileage BMW.
    The first BMW I saw was in 1975 or there about. The odo read 240000+/- miles, so it's been a while since the rolling odo resulted in a "low-mileage " vehicle.
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    i'd like to see...

    ...a comparison between bmw, harley and triumph resale values. i'm guessing they are quite competitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 175887 View Post


    The first BMW I saw was in 1975 or there about. The odo read 240000+/- miles, so it's been a while since the rolling odo resulted in a "low-mileage " vehicle.
    no odometers on bmws, prior to the K series beginning in 1985, had a hundred thousand counter. we had to add a "label maker" digit to the side of the odo to indicate that the odo had been "rolled over".
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenDiem View Post
    Greetings all,

    Over the course of the past few months, I've read numerous posts concerning the purported poor resale value of BMW motorcycles...

    I've not personally witnessed this, and quite frankly, I was/am surprised to learn of this. BMW automobiles have relatively high/strong resale values. Im a bit confused. Yeah, I know, apples and oranges, but given the brand name, there should be some similarities...

    I find this somewhat perplexing, inasmuch that I was always under the impression that limited availability/unique design and engineering, drives the resale market. The last I checked, BMW motorcycles are not omnipresent...

    I'd appreciate some input concerning this matter.

    Is there some truth to this?

    Tks/Best,

    BB
    My experience has been just the opposite. Exceptional resale value in my transactions.

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    If it is true, I would think competition makes a difference. There are many fine Japanese bikes out there for much less. You have to desire a BMW and that decreases your audience.

    Also, things change more rapidly now. Oil head drops when hexhead comes out. Hexhead drops when the new shimmed valve hexhead comes out. But if prices have dropped on older models, then that means it is a good time to buy used!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenDiem View Post
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    I find this somewhat perplexing, inasmuch that I was always under the impression that limited availability/unique design and engineering, drives the resale market.
    ...
    Basic Econ. Like mentioned in other posts, supply and demand drive resale markets, not unique design. If there's only one of something (it's really unique), but no one wants to buy it, it's not worth anything. No demand.

    A motorcycle is a discretionary purchase. In a recession, it's a buyers market when it comes to discretionary items. Right now, it's difficult to get credit unless you don't actually need it (limits demand) and even folks with cash are less likely to part with it for discretionary purchases unless it's a really good deal. That drives prices down.

    Where I live there's public transportation, but it's not great, so a car is a necessity. With the bad economy, new cars sales here don't seem to be doing well, but demand is exceeding supply for used cars. It's a sellers market for used cars and the price for good compact and mid-sized cars is going up.

    Anyway, long answer for it's about more than just perceived value like unique engineering. Don't forget supply and demand.
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