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    R1100s ABS wheels vs Non ABS wheels

    Hi,

    I'm new and my applogies if this was asked some time ago, but I've been unable to track down a thread where it has been discussed.

    I have a 1999 R1100s NON-Abs bike. I'm looking at changing the rims and I've found a reasonable set of ABS rims. Are they the same? I am hoping just to change over the brake disks and tires. Is it that simple or are they non-compatible?

    I think if I had the bikes side by side I could see if they were, but I don't have the luxury.

    If anyone could tell me if this is possible I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks

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    Look at the parts fiche, they have diff part numbers for ABS and non ABS. The only difference visually is the ABS ring.

    http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...8&rnd=03252011

    The Pelican Forum may also be of help:

    http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-r...0s-tech-forum/
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    It's hard to say without actually trying to fit it, but not so hard if you know the part numbers.

    For the early bikes with/without ABS2, the part numbers are different between ABS and nonABS bikes.

    For the later bikes with/without Integrated ABS, the part numbers are the same and this part number is same as earlier bike without ABS.

    So, kind of depends, perhaps on which version ABS the wheel is for.

    Be nice, that is, if part number ended in 692 and not 693

    The above for the rear

    As for the front, it's the same story, i.e. the later ABS wheel is the same as your nonABS wheel, but the earlier ABS wheel isn't. You want part number ending in 026.

    Clearly BMW took the opportunity when improving the ABS to rationalize wheels for R1100S, making it make no difference if with/without ABS on the later versions and using one of the early version wheels while doing it. In the long run this likely means those with early ABS will have trouble finding wheels.

    Part numbers indicated for silver wheels. If the potential wheels are mandarin, white, blue, etc., they're the later wheels.
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    OK, without doing a lot of reasearch here is the deal, by memory. the only difference in wheels is the "height" of the rotor mounting "towers" on the early ABS wheels.

    They are, by memory 6 MM taller (rear and LF side) for the early NON-abs, and the later wheels Both abs, and non abs. This was to accommodate the "Thick" abs ring used on the early bikes. The later used a thin stamped ABS ring so the short towers were not necessary.

    So bottom line YES they will work, if later version, simple bolt on, if earlier ABS (short towers) you will need to have 6 mm thick spacers made for the rear and LF rotor, and purchase the longer bolts that the early ABS bikes used. That might negate any cost savings of a good deal.

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    Thanks for all the advice. It almost feels like I have an old British sports car which when ordering parts the VIN is absolutely key. There aren't just year to year changes but month to month.

    I have gone ahead and purchased the wheels They are two boxer cup mandarin orange wheels. I'll get back to the thread when they arrive in a few weeks and let you know how it goes. I only paid $500 for the pair of rims so it isn't a huge investment and I figure I should be able to sell them easily enough if the experiment doesn't pan out.

    So why mandarin wheels? I do love the 2004 boxer cup mandarin and titanium. But I own a 1999 that came with very low mileage and a great price. So I've been changing the look while keeping a strong healthy bike that doesn't seem to have been abused. Fairings are done, now it's just the wheels. They will be the last change over. Thank you to everyone for your input and guidance. It's my first BMW and I haven't been so attached to a bike since my first set of wheeels.
    Last edited by Nishka; 02-01-2012 at 01:12 AM. Reason: addition want to thank everyone for their input.

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    There's a lot of info and very knowledgeable riders at the R1100S / R1200S site: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-r...0s-tech-forum/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishka View Post
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    I have gone ahead and purchased the wheels They are two boxer cup mandarin orange wheels. ..............


    Just set a straight edge across the rim, an measure the distance to the rear and LF rotor mounting points and compare them to your current.

    Like i said, worst scenario is find a machinist to make the spacers, I made mine 21mm od, I also lucked out and found the bolts on Ebay, but even if you have to buy them new, it is not outrageous. I have a drawing somewhere, I will forward it if I find it.
    Last edited by pffog; 02-02-2012 at 01:52 AM.

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    Thank you that would be great. Fortunately I'm a high school vice principal and the school has a machine ship so I can get spacers made if need be. Nothing like seeing your VP ridein on a bike you had a part in putting together. I do know about Pelican, I joined them and that is actually the site I bought the wheels on.

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    Realoem doesn't show any mandarin wheels in the old style so I bet you're good to go.
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    Wow, I had never heard of Realoem until your post. Thanks, I'm slow but I'm learning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nishka View Post
    Wow, I had never heard of Realoem until your post. Thanks, I'm slow but I'm learning!
    Join the club. No wait... you already did that. Nevermind.

    We're all learning here. I would have guessed the only difference in non ABS wheels is that the ABS ring would not be bolted on the hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkchris View Post
    Realoem doesn't show any mandarin wheels in the old style so I bet you're good to go.

    I think this is your answer.

    But here is the drawing for anybody that might find this in the future. I had a retired machinist friend make them so I dimensioned it in inches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pffog View Post
    I think this is your answer.

    But here is the drawing for anybody that might find this in the future. I had a retired machinist friend make them so I dimensioned it in inches.
    Great reference for the McGyver files I have...thanks
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    Awesome that will be great, and I'm hoping I won't need it.

    Luckly I speak inches as well !

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    Hey Nishka,

    If your plan doesn't work out for any reason, I'm looking for a 5.5 inch ABS (early ABS) rear wheel.

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