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    cycle world feb issue

    compared bmw, yamaha and ktm adventure bikes.

    bmw did not quite come out on top
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14rio View Post
    compared bmw, yamaha and ktm adventure bikes.

    bmw did not quite come out on top
    Yes, but in the real world ... ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by PGlaves View Post
    Yes, but in the real world ... ??
    BMW does not hold a candle to Yamaha or KTM in the dirt bike arena. I have had and still have all three. The BMW always stays home unless it is an improved dirt road and never crosses my mind when one truly goes offroad. We are talking no road at all! (offroad)

    In my twelve years of enduro racing all over the US I never saw or competed against one BMW.

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    A friend of mine had a KTM Adventure. Said it was a great bike for it's purpose. He sold it after a trip to AK. Oil Changes are apparently a major production and when he was stuck needing a new tire, there were plenty to fit a KLR at the local tire shop, but none for a KTM. Not enough demand.

    Just another couple of factors in the total cost of ownership.

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    BMW's bags came off.
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    BMW didn't quite come out on top...
    That's why I didn't buy that issue.

    And I can read Peter Egan's column at the newsstand.
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    And that is why they used them in the "Long Way Around", they didn't want to at first but were happy they did and then again in "Long Way Down",.................hmmmmmm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motorman587 View Post
    And that is why they used them in the "Long Way Around", they didn't want to at first but were happy they did and then again in "Long Way Down",.................hmmmmmm?
    Where the Ewan McCharlies whined about how it was so hard and proceeded to blow out the rear shock(s?). I'm not sure how much of an endorsement that was.

    They also didn't have the Yamaha to choose from at the time.

    Anyway, a little competition can only make the GS a better bike. Maybe a 1250 prototype would have faired better. Who knows, I probably won't read the article anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxcrider View Post
    Where the Ewan McCharlies whined about how it was so hard and proceeded to blow out the rear shock(s?). I'm not sure how much of an endorsement that was.

    They also didn't have the Yamaha to choose from at the time.

    Anyway, a little competition can only make the GS a better bike. Maybe a 1250 prototype would have faired better. Who knows, I probably won't read the article anyway.
    The shocks that they blew were aftermarket Ohlins. That's not to say the stock Showa shocks would not have failed. Ohlins are wimpy for off road applications, alum bodied with a weak ring set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaherbst View Post
    BMW does not hold a candle to Yamaha or KTM in the dirt bike arena. I have had and still have all three. The BMW always stays home unless it is an improved dirt road and never crosses my mind when one truly goes offroad. We are talking no road at all! (offroad)

    In my twelve years of enduro racing all over the US I never saw or competed against one BMW.

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    They only made an enduro bike for 2 years, so you probably could only ride for those two and never see one, legitimately. BMW did ok in the extreme enduros around the world, and in Europe. They never bothered to introduce into the US market, there was a big deal going on with Scott Summers that fell through. Plus they picked probably the worst possible economy to enter the dirt world, again.

    I myself raced a G450X in three ECEA enduros last year. My friend Jim S came in 3rd overall in Vet A in the NEtra series, and another dude from VA won the overall down there, so I see that they begin to hold a candle. They just sure as hell didnt have the factory behind them in any way, although the product was decent... just missing a few honest years of R+D.

    But the original tpoic was adventure bikes, and the last best offroad adventure bike by BMW had an airhead. The rest are just mile-eaters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DasBoot View Post
    The shocks that they blew were aftermarket Ohlins. That's not to say the stock Showa shocks would not have failed. Ohlins are wimpy for off road applications, alum bodied with a weak ring set up.
    Interesting - I wonder how many others assumed it was a factory part failure - maybe it was just me

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    The bikes were over loaded, witness the scene in LWR with the pile of crap they left behind. Ewan & Charlie's bikes each had frames crack at weld points. Don't recall if shocks failed in LWR, maybe they kept the stock units? Maybe just a coincidence in LWD that Charley, the most experienced rider, did not have a suspension failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 75571 View Post
    BMW's bags came off.
    Yup - the bike tested had the flimsy plastic cases

    Thought that was interesting how they equipped it
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