BMW Motorcycle Sales Up 7.4% in 2011

[rad]

He's not, and I know one or two others of us old guys that bought one too. But Cutter didn't buy enough to make it BMWs leading US seller.

I know that. Just have'n fun with a couple of sorta "factoids" and making a silly conclusion from them. It's just the internet.

[lkchris]

Not many "hothead" runners posting here, I'd suggest.

There are 96 threads about K1600

There are 47 threads about S1000RR

Which has been around longer?

Is the conclusion that the MOA Forum is not doing well attracting owners of this past year's best selling BMW?

Does this affect how much BMW should care about opinions posted here?

Is an S1000RR less "ugly" than a GS?

[osbornk]

Not many "hothead" runners posting here, I'd suggest.

There are 96 threads about K1600

There are 47 threads about S1000RR

Which has been around longer?

Is the conclusion that the MOA Forum is not doing well attracting owners of this past year's best selling BMW?

Does this affect how much BMW should care about opinions posted here?

Is an S1000RR less "ugly" than a GS?

I don't think it's about brand but about the type. I doubt a Corvette owner visits a Silverado forum or a Mustang owner visits a F-150 forum very often.

[moondog]

"The company credits their sales performance to improved market conditions, a broad, continually enhanced model lineup and a strong dealer network."

What dealer network?

[PGlaves]

"The company credits their sales performance to improved market conditions, a broad, continually enhanced model lineup and a strong dealer network."

What dealer network?

I actually know a number of strong dealers.

We can gripe about the number, but the fact is that BMW sales are up while competitors sales are down. The company and the dealers are doing something right.

[moondog]

Yea I know some strong dealers also but 2-4 hours away.....
BMW would do better if they wouldn't drive them under.

[36654]

I actually know a number of strong dealers.

We can gripe about the number, but the fact is that BMW sales are up while competitors sales are down. The company and the dealers are doing something right.

They are going for the high end. I hear that Harley sales are also up. I can also picture the typical Harley and BMW customer as coming from the same age and income bracket, but with different tastes.

But, luxury brands often do well in poor economic times. Many of the great cars from the pre-WWII period were the luxury brands from the 30's.......like Cord and Duesenberg.

[ka5ysy]

both 2011. i didn't do it on purpose. it just happened. actually, i'm pretty happy about it.
i put a 64 gig chip in the r bike's nav 4, so the stones and doors sing to the schuberth. after spending a lot of time on a naked harley, i find myself very comfortable on the R model in spite of the tiny windshield. one of the few benefits of being a midget, i guess.

Ok, since you have both, comparison please ! I have an 07 RR and there is a 2012 RT that winks at me every time I am in the dealership ...

[36654]

I actually know a number of strong dealers.

We can gripe about the number, but the fact is that BMW sales are up while competitors sales are down. The company and the dealers are doing something right.

Paul,

In the bitter irony category, a local modular housing manufacturer in Muncy PA (a 'burg near Bloomsburg) just announced that they're laying off their staff. It seems that banks aren't willing to make loans for that segment of the housing market.

It makes you think.

Jon

[osbornk]

Paul,

In the bitter irony category, a local modular housing manufacturer in Muncy PA (a 'burg near Bloomsburg) just announced that they're laying off their staff. It seems that banks aren't willing to make loans for that segment of the housing market.

It makes you think.

Jon

Banks have a problem with doublewide mobile homes that are sold as modulars. The banks won't finance something they consider a mobile home on a lot with a conventional mortgage. They insist that it be financed as a mobile home at a higher interest rate and shorter terms with the lot financed separately. It doesn't matter if it is new or used. Selling a doublewide mobile home on a lot is nearly impossible because the buyers can't get financing.

[36654]

Banks have a problem with doublewide mobile homes that are sold as modulars. The banks won't finance something they consider a mobile home on a lot with a conventional mortgage. They insist that it be financed as a mobile home at a higher interest rate and shorter terms with the lot financed separately. It doesn't matter if it is new or used. Selling a doublewide mobile home on a lot is nearly impossible because the buyers can't get financing.

But, modulars do serve a large part of the housing market, especially in rural areas.

[moondog]

How'd we get from 2 wheels to 16 wheels?

[PGlaves]

But, modulars do serve a large part of the housing market, especially in rural areas.

Terminology counts. "Modular" homes are built to current ICBO (International Conference of Building Officials standards, including the plumbing code, electrical code, building code,and fire code. "Double wide "mobile homes" are constructed to a different standard, adopted by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) in 1976. Mobile homes have a chassis, even after (if) the wheels are removed. Modular homes have no chassis and are transported by truck and set on a conventional foundation. In most states modular homes set on a foundation are taxed as real estate. In most states mobile homes constructed to the HUD standard are taxed as personal property.

Neither will fit on any BMW motorcycle I am aware of.

[36654]

Terminology counts. "Modular" homes are built to current ICBO (International Conference of Building Officials standards, including the plumbing code, electrical code, building code,and fire code. "Double wide "mobile homes" are constructed to a different standard, adopted by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) in 1976. Mobile homes have a chassis, even after (if) the wheels are removed. Modular homes have no chassis and are transported by truck and set on a conventional foundation. In most states modular homes set on a foundation are taxed as real estate. In most states mobile homes constructed to the HUD standard are taxed as personal property.

Neither will fit on any BMW motorcycle I am aware of.

I have seen some big boy toy trailers (which I have sometimes referred to as Harley Tour paks) which are nearly as large as a mobile home.