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'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.
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Any comparison between American workers & CEO's , with their counterparts in Germany is not in any way shape or form a fair representation.
The German system is so much different than ours here there are no factors I am aware of that can be compared fairly.
I lived/ worked in Germany and other foreign countries for protracted periods of time.
Any flack that tells you the systems are comparable is foolish.
The labor laws alone would make most employers here weep at the very thought.
And happy & lucky to be doing it! My wife's 1st yr starting her retirement & tomorrow
we rally; at the BMWNEF Winter Rally with appox 550 mostly other retirees! I scoped
out the retirement scene a few years before she was ready.... and haven't looked back,
and seldom stay home long. Too many rallys and road trips I allways wanted to take
in. I don't see getting tired of it... hope she feels the same come year end!
"Breathing is easy... living takes effort" John
So, what I hear is, that they cannot be compared. Back to my retirement... & no rallies here as too white!
Sorry , I do not understand your last comment
"& no rally's here as to white"
What does that mean ?
I also should clarify what i said about unfair comparisons of systems/cultures;
many years ago I was asked to make a presentation to our board of directors about my areas of responsibility and earnings.
I gave my presentation and the only question asked was;
How much in " real money " ( read US $$)does all that mean ?
I was appalled , here we were a supposedly international company with a 2.6 billion dollar a year turn over, and the people leading and providing guidance were so small they could not comprehend that the money earned in a foreign operation was just that. Earned from the sweat of our employees in their native currency. Had no bearing on US corporation profitability.
I quickly did the conversions and then stated it would be the only time i would bother with it. It was there responsibility to know if they felt it was necessary.
The board never asked me that question again.
Besides the money mostly had to remain in the countries we were working in as the fees charged by those governments to take the money out and convert it to dollars was prohibitive.
We then actually became an international company by using currencies earned there to buy and trade for goods and services provided by the countries in which
we were operating.
Again , that's why i feel there is no fair comparison of labor /management in the USA vs other countries.