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    So far I've resisted posting in this thread, but no more.

    I don't think anyone has mentioned how weight is distributed on the sidestand vs. the centerstand. On the sidestand, the majority of the weight is still on the wheels, and only the leaning of the motorcycle is supported by the stand. The use of a pad of some sort on asphalt is a no brainer. On the centerstand, the entire weight of the motorcycle is balanced on the stand right in the middle of the motorcycle. The wheels aren't a factor.

    I foolishly put my motorcycle (only once) on its centerstand on asphalt. The tipover was rather catastrophic. Never again. Sidestand, in gear, at all parking facilities. At home, in the garage, on a nice smooth cement floor where no one's going to bump it, it's not going to sink in the asphalt, and could easily be worked on...that's where my bikes are on their centerstands.

    At the gas station, centerstand for the reasons mentioned above; easier to have a level service for any gear that needs to be removed, and also allows a complete fill.

    When it comes to taking any of my motorcycles off either the centerstand or the sidestand, I'm always astride the bike. That's what works for me.

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    A little of each

    Center stand in the garage for both K1200LT and R1100R. Take up less space and easier to rotate the wheels to check tire pressures. Elsewhere, mostly side stand - depends on the terrain as many have noted. I carry a hard plastic plate (got it at a "Hurler David's Son" shop) at the ready for soft spots. Always dismount for fueling. (Long time ago, during a pre-flight of my jet on the carrier, my plane captain forced open a truculent drop tank cap. The tank was pressurized. Got soaked head to foot with jet fuel. Can testify that the family jewels are EXTREMELY sensitive to aromatic hydrocarbons!) The KLT is fueled on the side stand, the 1100R on the center.
    Around 1982 or so, when I was driving from LAX airport to China Lake for some flight tests, I stopped at a small engineering firm in Palmdale, CA, just outside the gate to Edwards AFB, that advertised a custom made Big Foot center stand in either the old BMWMOA newsletter or Rider magazine. Fit perfectly on my 1975 R75/6. It had four weight-bearing curls instead of two, and a wider stance, so I never again had to worry about the hot asphalt during Jacksonville, FL summers. Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DERost View Post
    I primarily use the center stand only because the lean angle of my side stand is SO extreme. I'll only use the side stand if the ground is slightly sloping up that way.

    Any thoughts on how I can extend (or can it be adjusted) the side stand? I'm thinking upwards towards an inch or so.

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    I installed the Touratech foot pad:

    Then I replaced the screws with longer ones and sandwiched a ?¢” rubber block (some say a hocky puck works ).

    The bike still has a radical lean, so recently I got this thing…(at http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/)

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    I use my centerstand 99% of the time, expecially when loaded…

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    Quote Originally Posted by eap View Post
    I installed the Touratech foot pad:

    [SIZE="4"]Then I replaced the screws with longer ones and sandwiched a ?¢ÔÇØ rubber block (some say a hocky puck works ).
    I was thinking about getting the Tourtech Large Side stand Foot for my 012 R1200 GS, but was wondering about this quote from the one reviewer at the Touratech www site.

    "One caveat, if the larger foot catches on anything while in gear, the engine will cut out because of the automatic side-stand engine kill. It happened to me at a traffic light while "foot paddling" the bike forward in gear with the clutch in, my boot caught the larger footplate. Something to be aware of."

    Does anyone here use or have had this problem with the Touratech side stand foot plate? What do you use if anything to give a wider base for the side stand on your bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Rider View Post
    I was thinking about getting the Tourtech Large Side stand Foot for my 012 R1200 GS, but was wondering about this quote from the one reviewer at the Touratech www site.

    "One caveat, if the larger foot catches on anything while in gear, the engine will cut out because of the automatic side-stand engine kill. It happened to me at a traffic light while "foot paddling" the bike forward in gear with the clutch in, my boot caught the larger footplate. Something to be aware of."

    Does anyone here use or have had this problem with the Touratech side stand foot plate? What do you use if anything to give a wider base for the side stand on your bike?
    Been using it for several years and never had that happen - I'll see how close my leg comes next time I'm paddling... I don't think it is a show stopper, just "something to be aware of".

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    Quote Originally Posted by eap View Post
    Been using it for several years and never had that happen - I'll see how close my leg comes next time I'm paddling... I don't think it is a show stopper, just "something to be aware of".
    Cool, good to know !!

    Keep us posted on your findings.
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    Well looked at it today while paddling and didn't see that it would be a problem for me - my leg usually lands ouside the the foot rest while the kick stand is to the rear...
    Here are few snap shots

    Touratech extender with spacers adding 3/4"


    SafeTkick adds another 3/4"


    Side stand up


    Leg down

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    Here's another angle...

    When parking a motorcycle aboard a Washington State Ferry, ferry personnel will ask you to refrain from parking a m/c on a centerstand. A m/c parked on a sidestand with the transmission in gear is far more stable than a m/c parked on a centerstand with the rear wheel hanging in space.

    My bikes are parked on their centerstands when in the garage for extended periods of time, but the bike that is getting ridden is kept on the side stand - both in my garage at home, and in my garage at the office.

    As mentioned eariler, long-term storage of oilheads on side-stands can allow oil to seep past the left piston rings and into the combustion chamber, causing billows of blue smoke at start-up. This happens frequently with my RTP, but never happens with the GSA.

    I'm currently riding the GSA, so the RTP is on the centerstand and on the trickle-charger in my garage. The GSA currently sits on her sidestand in my office building's garage.
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    new bmw owner . what is the safest way to get the bike off the center stand.
    i was told to drive the bike off the center stand . which does seem to be safer that wrestling the bike off. will it damage the stand by doing it this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cardoctor View Post
    new bmw owner . what is the safest way to get the bike off the center stand.
    i was told to drive the bike off the center stand . which does seem to be safer that wrestling the bike off. will it damage the stand by doing it this way?
    not likely to damage c-stand. might be an issue with your clutch. do a search, this has been discussed before
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    1.. If you wish to stand beside the bike and push off the centerstand, always point the wheel to the right, so when it rolls off it will want to lean into you. If it leans away, even an inch, you can lose it. DAMHIK.

    2. If you astride the saddle, it is easy to push forward with your feet and rock it off. On mine you can not get enough traction to rick it off.

    3. If using the side stand, always leave it in gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragtoplvr View Post
    1.. If you wish to stand beside the bike and push off the centerstand, always point the wheel to the right, so when it rolls off it will want to lean into you. If it leans away, even an inch, you can lose it. DAMHIK.

    2. If you astride the saddle, it is easy to push forward with your feet and rock it off. On mine you can not get enough traction to rick it off.

    3. If using the side stand, always leave it in gear.
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    Responding to post several pages back about gassing up my bike, 2005 Rockster, the owners manual says to gas up while on the side stand.

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    My 1150gs solution

    Custom Bigfoot, custom adjustable sidestand.
    Rarely use the centerstand anymore.
    Bike is very upright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSAddict View Post
    Custom Bigfoot, custom adjustable sidestand.
    Rarely use the centerstand anymore.
    Bike is very upright.

    Did you make/have made the extension portion ? There used to be a after market extender (wunderlich or Touratech maybe??) but it is no longer available...

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