Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: Buying out of state

  1. #1
    Nickname: Droid
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Green Bay, WI
    Posts
    2,352

    Buying out of state

    My brother is looking to buy a BMW bike out of state. He plans to fly out to the seller's location and buy the bike and ride it home. I'm sure this has been discussed before, but what are the procedures/issues/cautions/laws, for a bike from Waqshington state to Wisconsin? I bet some issues are:
    1. Get the VIN number from the seller to to able to get a Wisconsin license plate. Fly to seller location with the new license plate in hand.
    2. Pay the sales tax in the state of sale or state of licensing?
    3. Obtain the title upon paying for the bike, and then transfer the title when in Wisconsin? Title must be signed to buyer to move the bike across state lines.
    4. Insurance coverage for the trip from WA to WI, again dependent on getting the VIN.
    5. Do a VIN search to assure the bike is clear in the seller's hands.
    6. Get some maintenance history on the bike from the seller and/or local dealer.

    So what other things to consider and plan for?

  2. #2
    Registered User PHMARVIN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    El Paso, TX
    Posts
    933
    Hi, Andy,
    I have bought a number of bikes out-of-state and ridden them home - to Texas. I know what to do in Texas, not what to do in Wisconsin!

    I would contact your tax or licensing office and ask about a paper plate. I can get one good for 30 days for $25. I need the VIN and insurance for this. The VIN comes from the seller and, once you have it, your insurance co. should issue a policy. Mine will.

    If you pay with anything but cash, don't expect to have the title until the check has cleared. Were it me, I would be prepared to hand over a wad of Benjamins. If there is a lien, both of you go to the bank to make sure the lien is paid off. If the llienholder is not local, you need to decide how to handle it.

    You don't need the signed title with the paper plate, but you should have a bill-of-sale from the seller to you. I would go so far as to have it notarized. You also need proof of insurance.

    Your home state will hit you for "use tax", the equivalent of sales tax.

    Good Luck!
    Ride Safe,
    Phil Marvin - El Paso, TX
    '94 K75A/3
    '95 K75RTP

  3. #3
    neanderssance man sedanman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Beacon, NY
    Posts
    505
    I bought a car out of state once and had to go to a state "Tag Station" to transfer ownership. Sales tax was due at the tag station. When I got home I preseted all of the paperwork I got from the tag station and then got a surprise.......... I had to pay more sales tax. In my case NY wanted the difference between their tax rate and that of PA. which was lower. As you have already been advised, call your state department of motor vehicles and ask them what the rules are, avoid surprises.
    Paul
    "Friends don't let friends ride junk!"
    2011 R1200RT

  4. #4
    Old man in the mountains osbornk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Marion VA-In the middle of some of the best riding in the country.
    Posts
    3,250
    Every state is different so you need to check with your state. If your brother already has a motorcycle with insurance, additional vehicles are normally covered for 30 days when they are purchased. Otherwise, the insurance can bought with the id # of the bike. I have bought both cars and motorcycles from out of state and each time, I took them home with the tags of the prior owner and simply mailed the tags back to them. Taxes are normally owed to the state where you title the vehicle and it is due at the time the title is transferred.
    'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.

  5. #5
    Registered User lkchris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Location
    Albuquerque, NM
    Posts
    4,719
    I wouldn't worry a bit about the "plate" required to get home.

    The selling dealer will provide something if that's where you purchase, but it's mostly just a plastic covering for the paperwork that might screw to the rear fender. You can do this with a private sale, too, or even just leave the rear fender blank--what's important is you have the "bill of sale" papers at hand. It's pretty common knowledge to any "authorities" that your local MVD back home will need to see the bike and paperwork before they give you a metal plate.

    Recently I got myself to Lewiston, WA, to ferry an R1100RT back home to ABQ and had zero problems with any of it. Highway patrol did NOT do a U-turn to check me out or anything like that--the big thing is likely to drive sensibly, etc. Same thing with a recent trip from Cincinnatti with a BMW Multi Trailer--no plate on back, no hassles. Getting stopped for a "paperwork check" in any event is no big deal, but it's seldom a priority thing with authorities.

    Don't overthink this--no matter where you are, the main thing is to leave with the signed-over title for the purchase and perhaps additionally a bill of sale form. Best preplanning would be to ensure the seller has that and any liens (loans) on the bike can be taken care of easily and completely before you leave. The VIN on the bike needs to match the paperwork, of course.

    What you do at the seller's location is what counts--worry about your home location only when you get back. If there's a lien thing, that would be the most productive thing to explore before leaving, i.e. get the loan number, agency, etc., and call them--you want to make sure your payment goes to them and not the seller first, because they are the owner. So, ask them how to do it.
    Kent Christensen
    21482
    '12 R1200RT, '02 R1100S, '84 R80G/S

  6. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Eastern KY
    Posts
    3,182
    I don't think you stated if a dealer transaction, but they can be a pain too. Especially if a financial institution is involved. The DMV website of the 2 states involved will usually tell the story, but a call to your local clerk may help as already said. As to mailing the plates, sometimes they stay with the vehicle and others they do not. I have always been curious as to how people "protect their plates" from pictures as they are in full public view on the road! In transporting vehicle with anothers plates I try to be very cautious as it is not in your name yet & so really illegal in fact, but many of us do it. Greenwald has taken this topic before to explanation, as I recall.

  7. #7
    Registered User f14rio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    mattituck new york
    Posts
    1,076

    i bought a '73 volvo p1800es in oregon and drove it back to new york

    how dumb is that to buy a 30 some year old car with 175k mi sight unseen and then drive it across the country?

    ..well ,it woulda been dumb if it broke but it didn't.
    ..
    anyway, i had the oregon title and my own insurance. .drove home with the seller's plates and registration... marginally legal i suppose, but no problem.

    got ny plates/reg after getting home.

    my wife's comment upon seeing the car,

    "it sure is orange."

    btw, the machine is bullet proof. (225k mi now)

    .
    "Enemy fighters at 2 o'clock!...Roger, What should i do until then?"

    2010 r1200r, 2009 harley crossbones, 2008 triumph/sidecar, 1970 norton commando 750

  8. #8
    Nickname: Droid
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Green Bay, WI
    Posts
    2,352
    Thanks for all the input!

    By the way, WAY cool P1800! I have always liked the Volvo P1800, especially done up as a retro sports coupe or wagon.

  9. #9
    OldBMWMaster JDOCKERY132445's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Pleasure Island. NC
    Posts
    938

    Headed out this morning

    I am headed to Atlanta to pick up a K bike I bought on ebay. I love all the guys who suggest that you call the DMV. I called 3 times and got 3 answers to how I should proceed.

    I finally gave up and am doing it the way that "makes sense". It might not be technically legal, but I figure most cops are pretty level-headed and will only want to insure that the bike is not stolen and that it is insured.

    I have my proof of insurance and I will have a notarized title.
    Jerry Dockery
    309 N. 3rd. Ave.
    Kure Beach, NC 28449
    1996 R1100RT main bike & 1985 K100RS...too fast to believe.

  10. #10
    OldBMWMaster JDOCKERY132445's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Pleasure Island. NC
    Posts
    938

    No problems

    I rode back from Atlanta to Wilmington with zero problems. I was passed and passed by several LEO and none took a second look at my paper tag,"License Applied For".

    Now for some new tires and a trip to deliver the bike to my son who is itching to ride.
    Jerry Dockery
    309 N. 3rd. Ave.
    Kure Beach, NC 28449
    1996 R1100RT main bike & 1985 K100RS...too fast to believe.

  11. #11
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    1,144
    Quote Originally Posted by JDOCKERY132445 View Post
    I rode back from Atlanta to Wilmington with zero problems. I was passed and passed by several LEO and none took a second look at my paper tag,"License Applied For".

    Now for some new tires and a trip to deliver the bike to my son who is itching to ride.
    How about some tie downs first, the anti hurricane ones. You'd been better off staying in Atlanta for a while, given the weather coming up the coast. Good luck with the new machine and the weather.
    '14 R1200RT
    MOA #46783

  12. #12
    OldBMWMaster JDOCKERY132445's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Pleasure Island. NC
    Posts
    938

    False alarm

    Quote Originally Posted by Motodan View Post
    How about some tie downs first, the anti hurricane ones. You'd been better off staying in Atlanta for a while, given the weather coming up the coast. Good luck with the new machine and the weather.

    Stop watching the talking weather nerds and look at the maps. There will be zero problems here; but we are having a hurricane party. i am headed to the liquor store now.
    Jerry Dockery
    309 N. 3rd. Ave.
    Kure Beach, NC 28449
    1996 R1100RT main bike & 1985 K100RS...too fast to believe.

  13. #13
    Live it, or live with it
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    AZ, USA
    Posts
    136
    The only thing I'll add is check with your state's DMV to see if the title needs to be notarized. Here in AZ it does, but on out-of-state sales it's determined by the rules in the seller's state. I've purchased out-of-state twice--one state required notarized, one didn't. I didn't have any trouble registering either in AZ.
    Motor On '/,

  14. #14
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Midwest
    Posts
    1,144
    Quote Originally Posted by JDOCKERY132445 View Post
    Stop watching the talking weather nerds and look at the maps. There will be zero problems here; but we are having a hurricane party. i am headed to the liquor store now.
    I'll quit looking at TV and you can look at this statement...before you drink your findings from the liquor store...nail your plywood on the shack and then check this out from TWC:

    "Hurricane Watches Issued in Carolinas

    Evacuations have begun in the Carolinas. Irene is a large, powerful, and destructive storm. Please listen to your local officials instructions and evacuate immediately if ordered."

    Hope it misses you, that will show those TV nerds a thing or two.
    '14 R1200RT
    MOA #46783

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •