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    Talking my $0.02

    pre- July....or post Aug for me......
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    Since the stubborn MOA is not going to change from summer, I suggest looking to cooler higher altitude mountain locations, Lake Placid NY for example, not sweltering river valleys.

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    Angry BMWMOA Takes a Poll of membership ?

    The powers that be could include a card in the magazine so members could fill in a poll vote as to move the rally date forward/back or leave as is.
    I myself will never attend another July rally. #38839

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    Question Any dates for 2012 Sedalia?????

    Any dates posted yet for 2012 Sedalia?????? TIA
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    It is around 1:30 as I sit here in my air-conditioned hotel room. Too hot to go out. I was able to squeeze in a few very thankful people in here last night. But I am leaving shortly due to the extreme heat. I think we need to put a vote to the members to see when they would prefer a rally.

    Anyone remember Lima, Ohio rally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6659 View Post
    It is around 1:30 as I sit here in my air-conditioned hotel room. Too hot to go out. I was able to squeeze in a few very thankful people in here last night. But I am leaving shortly due to the extreme heat. I think we need to put a vote to the members to see when they would prefer a rally.

    Anyone remember Lima, Ohio rally?
    I remember Lima as being flat as a tabletop with few curves, My favorite was Johnson City. The only problem with mountain rallies is you camp on an incline. Doesn't seem so bad as it is now 99 with q heat index of 109 at the rally where I am.
    'You can say what you want about the South, but I almost never hear of anyone wanting to retire to the North.

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    As some have suggested, I would like to see rally dates take the site location into consideration and include any of the months from May through September. Even so, I wish I could get away to attend in PA this weekend, although I might pass on the camping for once.

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    Really, spring or fall would be fantastic. I'm from Alabama (the past 9 years anyway) and I still can't deal with this heat/humidity. Why NOT move the rally?

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    The powers that be could include a card in the magazine so members could fill in a poll vote as to move the rally date forward/back or leave as is.
    well now thats an idea



    Maybe the date for the rally should be adjusted to the location? If it is in the deep south maybe more springish or fallish. If way up north then in mid summer.
    and another good idea


    there ARE alternatives to holding a mid July rally every year, whether the MOA acts to implement a change or continue with business as usual is the question.

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    I think weather will always involve an element of luck, but clearly with a rally in July there are areas of the US and Canada that will never see a national rally. I really like the idea of holding rallies at different times of the year in different areas. Maybe come up with a definition of tolerable conditions, then look for areas that meet those conditions at various times of the riding season. Afterall, isn't the the MOA, not the MO-in the part of America with clear skies in July?

    As for Camp Gears, I would have no problem pulling my kids out of school for such a great educational opportunity!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Statdawg View Post
    Camp Gears is the future core of the MOA, its our only strong point grasping the " youth market share." WE can NOT afford to limit their rally involvement by having an event during thier school year.

    There is also a " break even " point that WE have to obtain to have a successful rally or the MOA will be finacially bleeding regardless how intellegent our stewards have been or will be with the already declined membership.

    Statdawg drank too much Kool aid in this heat. IMO its not as hot as 126 F on a road in Africa, so a little heat in Pennsylvania can be tolerant to see family.
    I can count on one hand the number of high schoolers at a rally, Nat'l or not. Our age group is average 55+ and rarely do you see a youngin' who buys a Beemer for their first bike. They want a rice rocket, ride around with no helmet and no gear. If we wait around wishing the younger folks come to the rally we got a long wait. Even with the 1000RR around what do think a kid is gonna buy, a bike that cost 10k plus or a used rice rocket for 3-4k. And what percentages of the membership are teachers? No I say we don't cater to kids and teachers. Cater to the majority. Yea put it for a vote. I vote hold the rally in the season compatible with the location. I live in Georgia (formerly Connecticut) and during this weather (which last aaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllll summer long!, so count your blessings it only lasts a week) I don't ride except for early morning breakfast runs. I learned my lesson last year riding in this type of weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moondog View Post
    They want a rice rocket, ride around with no helmet and no gear.
    I did 200+ miles in the cage today between Massachusetts and southern NH -- Logan Airport tied the record of 103 and it was pertneer 100 everywhere I went.

    I saw a lot of cruisers -- not a single rider had more than a T shirt, and in NH, not one had a helmet. Contrast that with all the sports bike riders I saw -- only one was riding in a T shirt, and every last one of the rest were ATGATT with mesh jackets and full face helmets.

    Pretty impressive -- you might need to change your stereotype, at least for southern New England. Peer pressure works.

    But yeah, there weren't many Camp Gears kids in Voni's pictures and not a single one was smiling.
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    This post is an open letter to the MOA board.

    By placing the rally in the middle of the hottest part of the year, statistically we are bound to get uncomfortably warm weather. If comfortable weather is a priority (it sure is for me), it only makes sense to hold the rally earlier or later in the year.

    As many have pointed out, there are numerous criteria that factor in to when and where the National is held. Some have mentioned that teachers and students are locked in to taking summer time off. For many years I worked in a national park. Because we were at the height of the visitor season then, we could not take leave during July or August. Everyone has personal criteria to satisfy. If attending the rally is a high enough priority, most people can find a way.

    September weather is usually much more moderate, but is the start of hurricane season along the gulf coast and eastern seaboard. It's all a gamble. What's not a gamble is that the temperatures are likely to be more pleasant in June or September.

    I challenge the board to formally poll the membership to determine if an early or later rally date would be worth trying. Some years ago I recall they tried a mid-week rally. The concept didn't go over too well, but I don't fault the MOA for at least giving it a try.

    Can we start by polling the membership to at least see if an earlier/later date would be popular enough to try? I'll start the ball rolling by proposing a national rally date in the first half of September.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommcgee View Post
    I did 200+ miles in the cage today between Massachusetts and southern NH -- Logan Airport tied the record of 103 and it was pertneer 100 everywhere I went.

    I saw a lot of cruisers -- not a single rider had more than a T shirt, and in NH, not one had a helmet. Contrast that with all the sports bike riders I saw -- only one was riding in a T shirt, and every last one of the rest were ATGATT with mesh jackets and full face helmets.

    Pretty impressive -- you might need to change your stereotype, at least for southern New England. Peer pressure works.

    But yeah, there weren't many Camp Gears kids in Voni's pictures and not a single one was smiling.
    Come down to Georgia and you'll change your mind. No stereotype. I call em like I see em....
    And what kind of bikes did you them on? Rice rockets? Did you see one rider on a BMW that you could tell wasn't an old fart like us...

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    Pay your quarter and take your chances.

    Went to the RA in Wisconsin. About 10 days of vacation and riding. Only really wicked heat was during the RA. It's just luck.

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