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    Conviction upheld in Janklow caseBy Richard Meryhew / Star Tribune
    startribune.comJ.R. Scott was inspecting feeder cattle from the driver's seat of his pickup truck Thursday when his mother, Dee, called on his cell phone and gave him the news:

    Bill Janklow's attempt to overturn his felony conviction in the August 2003 traffic accident that killed Scott's father had apparently come to an end.

    In a unanimous ruling, South Dakota's highest court said the 65-year-old former congressman and four-term governor received a fair trial in December 2003.

    A jury found him guilty of second-degree manslaughter and reckless driving in the collision that killed Randy Scott, 55, a cattle rancher from Hardwick, Minn.

    The court also ruled that prosecutors presented enough evidence to win a conviction.

    "It worked out good," J.R. Scott, 26, said by phone from the cattle feeder barn in Herreid, S.D., where he has worked for nearly two years. "I was getting sick of him thinking he's not guilty. If you're guilty, you're guilty. Don't sit there and keep denying it."

    The South Dakota Supreme Court ruling apparently ends attempts by one of the state'sformerly most prominent and powerful political figures to clear his name and record. Although he could appeal his case to the U.S. District Court or the U.S. Supreme Court, his attorney said that it is unlikely.

    "Obviously, we're disappointed," said Ed Evans, an attorney from Sioux Falls, S.D., who represented Janklow. "But I don't foresee any further appeals or court proceedings."

    Janklow did not return phone calls to his home Thursday.

    "I haven't commented on it since this all started ... and I'm not going to start talking about it now," he told the Associated Press.

    According to authorities, Janklow, a colorful character who often bragged about his fast driving, ran a stop sign and collided with Scott's motorcycle at a rural intersection near Trent, S.D. the afternoon of Aug. 16, 2003.

    Investigators said Janklow, who was headed home from a ceremony to honor Korean War veterans, was driving south at more than 70 miles per hour when he hit Scott, who was traveling west and was not required to stop at the intersection. Scott died at the scene.

    Janklow said repeatedly in the months after that he did not recall what happened in the moments leading up to the crash.

    Evans argued at trial that Janklow, an insulin-dependent diabetic, missed the stop sign because he had suffered a diabetic reaction caused by low blood sugar. But prosecutors argued that Janklow, who drove the highway often while traveling from his home to visit his mother in Flandreau, S.D., was driving with a "reckless disregard" for the safety of others.

    Jurors agreed, convicting him of second-degree manslaughter, a felony, and misdemeanor counts of reckless driving, speeding and running a stop sign. In the hours after his conviction, Janklow resigned his U.S. House seat.

    In January 2004 he was sentenced to 100 days in jail, fined more than $11,000, stripped of his driving privileges for three years and placed on probation for the same period of time.

    In appealing his case, Janklow argued that prosecutors didn't present sufficient evidence to prove he acted recklessly in killing Scott. He also argued that prosecutors proved only that he ran the stop sign.

    But the Supreme Court said there was "sufficient evidence from which the jury could conclude that Janklow was aware of, yet disregarded, the risk of an accident occurring as a result of his conduct."

    "Ohhhh, thank goodness," Dee Scott, J.R.'s mother and Randy Scott's former wife, said after learning of the state Supreme Court ruling. "It's a relief to have this part end."

    Dee Scott said her family has been frustrated watching Janklow appeal.

    "He's still fighting it," she said. "That was the thing that bothered me. He's still denying it. He's still fighting it or trying to get out of it or get out of any responsibility at all."

    The case was decided by five circuit jud

    I still think he got off to easy!!!!! Den
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    yes, i heard this good news this morning on NPR, but they also added the fact that mr janklow could still appeal to the u.s. supreme court. it would surprise me if the bastage doesn't take it to the limit. for all we know the people of south dakota are paying his lawyer bills.
    oh well, the democrats have a killer in ted kennedy and the republicans now have one in janklow. someone from the green party and a notable libertarian need to step up to the plate and do something - they are lagging behind.
    well, republicans can take pride in the fact that janklow did 100 days of hard time for his crime while teddy got to drown the girl with no jail time.
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    Cliffy777,( I think) I read that it was ruled that Janklow was on Government business, and the taxpayers would be responsible for any action taken, this would include the wrongful death suite filed by the Scott family, so I'm sure the Government will pay for any appeals. I respect the rights of all political partys, The article does not mention democrate or republican, only that he killed a person.

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    The SOB deserves a big kick in the @$$.

    The fact that he just canÔÇÖt own up to his deeds is so frustrating. I canÔÇÖt imagine what the Scott family has been going through.
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    Did I mention that I have yet to get a response from the State of South Dakota as to why I should ever come to visit? Really, I sent a letter via Fax to the govenor a while back and still have yet to get a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradfordBenn
    Did I mention that I have yet to get a response from the State of South Dakota as to why I should ever come to visit? Really, I sent a letter via Fax to the govenor a while back and still have yet to get a response.
    prolly too busy raising funds for jankelow's defense team.
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    What's right and what's wrong...

    This may not be a popular post, but I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway.

    Some items/opinions from my view about the Janklow case:

    - The fact that he won't own up to it, and just let it go. Probably doing so would be easier for the Scott family to win a civil case. I would think that in order to have any type of clear conscience, he'd want to do this.

    - The fact that Mr. Scott was a first time motorcycle rider at age 54, and he bought his HD Roadking. He'd been riding for about a year.

    - The fact that had this between 2 cars, and 2 average citizens, there would've been about a 2 inch column in the local South Dakota paper, yet the exact same laws would've been broken, and a death would've resulted. It gets the press because the law-breaker was a congressman, and the victim was a motorcycle rider.

    - Did anybody read some of the comments from the local law enforcement people when they investigated this case? Visibility at this intersection was a huge problem, and there's a chance that even if Mr. Janklow had stopped (which he obviously did not), that the accident still could've happened.

    I'm not defending Mr. Janklow at all. He obviously was a habitual speeder, had little regard for traffic laws, and it finally caught up to him by costing the life of a motorcycle rider. I think it's wrong that taxpayer funds are being used to defend this guy in any way shape or form. But I suspect he's paying his own personal dues knowing that someone lost their life because of his negligent actions, he has been prosecuted, has served his time. That's the way the system worked, and fortunately for him, Mr. Janklow had the monetary resources to defend his case to the hilt.

    As motorcyclists, we're more vulnerable when we're on the road, there's no doubt about that. But does that mean when a cage driver causes an accident involving a motorcycle they should be prosecuted at a different level than if they caused the same accident between 2 cages? Just asking.
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    How many people would be affected?

    Quote Originally Posted by BradfordBenn
    Did I mention that I have yet to get a response from the State of South Dakota as to why I should ever come to visit? Really, I sent a letter via Fax to the govenor a while back and still have yet to get a response.
    Let's just say that there was a mass boycott of visiting the state of South Dakota. The livelihood of all those people who depend on the tourist dollar would be affected. Does anyone really believe that this would cause many of the citizens to rise up in some sort of mass hysteria to make this case right?

    A boycott's not gonna happen, the Sturgis faithful will always return, and it wouldn't matter anyway.

    As far as more common tourists are concerned, there are many reasons to visit the state of South Dakota, 1 law-breaking congressman is not a reason not to, IMHO.
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    braddog wrote:
    As motorcyclists, we're more vulnerable when we're on the road, there's no doubt about that. But does that mean when a cage driver causes an accident involving a motorcycle they should be prosecuted at a different level than if they caused the same accident between 2 cages? Just asking.

    personally i think the guy should have been nailed if he had killed someone in a car with his car. the fact that mr scott was on a bike upped the ante a little for me, but what got my attention is the weak logic that janklow was "on the job" and therefore taxpayers picked up his legal bill. it also rankles me that an habitual traffic offender does 100 days for vehicular homicide. if the guy had a clean record and could not see a stop sign, then maybe i would feel different. this guy thumbed his nose at traffic laws as a way of life. i don't care if his victim was in a hummer, he should have been nailed.
    is 70 mph the posted limit? if the visibility at the intersection is notoriously poor, then doesn't a prudent driver (be they operating a car, truck, bus, RV, motorcycle or whatever) slow down and proceed with caution.
    this thing stinks from every angle - not just car vs bike (IMHO).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliffy777
    braddog wrote:
    personally i think the guy should have been nailed if he had killed someone in a car with his car.
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    That's exactly the approach being taken by the AMA in their Justice For All campaign. I agree with them, and you, that we'll get further by demanding better laws and more appropriate punishment for all offenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braddog
    As far as more common tourists are concerned, there are many reasons to visit the state of South Dakota, 1 law-breaking congressman is not a reason not to, IMHO.
    I agree but the fact that I did not get a response at all is interesting. I am sure that the people of SD are just caught in the cross fire. But like I said I am surprised to not get a resopnse at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradfordBenn
    I agree but the fact that I did not get a response at all is interesting. I am sure that the people of SD are just caught in the cross fire. But like I said I am surprised to not get a resopnse at all.

    Maybe the were so buried in letters like yours they just gave up replying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradfordBenn
    Did I mention that I have yet to get a response from the State of South Dakota as to why I should ever come to visit? Really, I sent a letter via Fax to the govenor a while back and still have yet to get a response.

    I wrote a letter to their Attorney General and never received a reply. I asked him to investigate any collusion between JERKlow and the judge that gave him 100 days (which was a Janklow appointee).

    I never had any problem with the people of SD and the jury. After all, they did find him guilty. It was the judge that dropped the ball IMHO.
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    Justice for All

    If nothing else this issue has brought to light an important issue. First we are all responsible for our actions, either deliberately harmful or unintentionally harmful!

    Second, the AMA is doing some really good work in there Justice for All Campaign. To be honest the AMA grinds me sometimes but this is a good cause. I decided to put a little money were my mouth is and made a donation. Nothing will get better/done if all we do is talk about it.

    More information on Justice for All
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    Both me and the L&T Mrs. Benn have the Justice For All stickers on our cars. It actually makes sense and has been a good program.

    Just like most groups there are somethings about the AMA I don't like but this program I do.
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