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    Question Border Line?

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    Have you been disallowed entry into
    another country while riding
    due to your paperwork
    not being in order?

    And what did you do to correct/rectify the situation?
    Am thinking of entry into the United States from Canada
    for Bloomsburg laterthis year..
    I do have a current passport however in this era of everybody
    wanting or seemingly knowing everything and anything
    about everybody and everything am concerned.
    My past forty years ago was not all that rosy.

    Consulted an immigration lawyer and he came
    up with nothing specific. Suggested try and see what
    happens. It has been ten years since I was last in the USA,
    in fact the summer of 2001! Have not been out of Canada
    since for various medical reasons.

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    You already have a passport, that is a first positive step!

    If you have no criminal record or drunk driving offences
    getting into the US should not be a problem.

    If you do have either of these you can apply for a offical pardon.
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    It is hard to understand what you are trying not to put out on the open forum. Here are some shots in the dark to try and help out.

    If you are a fugitive you need to check on the statute of limitations for the offense you committed. If the statute of limitations has expired you are likely to be OK. That does not mean they will let you in, just that they won't put you in jail for it. If there is a bar to entry you need to contact the US embassy and or US Customs & Immigration to see what you can do, if anything, to get it removed.

    If you are a draft dodger from the Viet Nam war, President carter granted a blanket pardon for that.

    If you are a deserter or fled from an offence under the UCMJ you need to check on the statute of limitations again and you might just want to contact a military JAG office about the offense in question.

    Hope this helps you.
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    Way back in history, there was one of those
    international conflicts. This particular coflict
    was in Vietnam and said mission created
    many protests both in the USA and,
    here in Canada. Was directly involved
    in a particular protest in the middle 1960's involving
    the US embassy in Toronto. Was arrested for causing
    physical damage to the embassy.
    Was convicted, served my time and continued with my life.
    Travelled stateside and overseas frequently in the interim and
    nary a problem. Requested and received a provincial
    and federal pardon for the incident in 1991.
    Have travelled to the US only once since, in June 2001.
    However post 9/11 the international border has
    t been made more secure.
    A lawyer was consulted. Comment was "as you
    damaged a US property in Canada you may well
    you may well not be eligible to enter the US
    ever again." Hence my query.
    I don't want to be refused entry, lose my
    mode of transportation and be returned to Canada
    to face our legal system forty five years after the fact;
    pardon notwithstanding.

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    I thought this was a thread about Madonna hits.

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    The US won't necessarily accept a Canadian pardon, if you have one.

    Rather than asking a bunch of well-meaning folks on a motorcycle website, I suggest you contact those who can give you a definitive answer.

    US consulate in Toronto: http://www.consular.canada.usembassy.gov/toronto.asp

    Information on your specific question: http://www.consular.canada.usembassy...ility_visa.asp

    PM me if you have questions.
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    A much more concise reply

    Quote Originally Posted by 32232 View Post
    The US won't necessarily accept a Canadian pardon, if you have one.
    Very aware of same. Have never in the past made comment one way or the other
    crossing the international border. Seems in the current situation(s) the rules
    have become much stricter.

    Quote Originally Posted by 32232 View Post
    Rather than asking a bunch of well-meaning folks
    on a motorcycle website, I suggest you contact those who can give you
    a definitive answer..
    Quote Originally Posted by 32232 View Post
    PM me if you have questions.
    Have already submitted the required documents
    as requested and at this point
    the documents have been accepted;
    and is proceeding.

    Am not so much concerned about Bloomsburg,
    rather a future date
    which may place me in the USA.
    Simply want to be ready; I may well never
    intentiionally enter the US.
    Rather be safe than sorry.

    If problems will drop you a PM.

    Was just wondering if others on the BMW forums
    had encountered difficultires.

    Thank You

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    I can't comment on the war protest stuff, but you ought to have proof of insurance and registration papers if Canada has such a thing.

    Jay

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1dinman View Post
    I can't comment on the war protest stuff, but you ought to have proof of insurance and registration papers if Canada has such a thing.

    Jay
    Have those, and those documents are not the problem.

    In any event decided after much thought to not persue the issue,
    at least on this forum. As noted elsewhere, resigned my membership.
    There is just no way in a short period of time anything will be
    accomplished to allow me stateside. THe lawyer I am using
    has already verbally advised me "clearance is highly unlikely."

    Funny in a way, "we" do things when we are many years younger and
    never think of the consequences of same even 45 years later.
    Governments of all types have long memories and in these days
    of intensive record keeping, history of your past is recorded
    somewhere just waiting for an official to discover,
    and perhaps use against you. My rights stateside are now not.
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    Make a practice crossing and see what happens. We cross the border quite often and have never had either country do anything other than a glance at the passports and some perfunctory questions. If you are denied entry you will then know what you need to take on to gain entry in the future. Borrow a relatives' car for the test in case of impound.

    Now there was the time we were crossing from Austria in to West Germany and the border police were certain my wife was a member of the Bader-Meinhoff gang. That was an interesting several hours. And no she wasn't.
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    I have had many crossings into the U.S. and I believe only once have they asked if I've been arrested. I gave them the truthful answer; "No".

    I guess if I were you, I'd have a trial crossing and see what happens. I do know that they keep records as one year most of my crossings were at Buffalo but my first crossing the following January was at Detroit, in my car, not on a bike. The American border official did comment my crossing history. From that I concluded that my name is in their data base as I was not using the same vehicle (license plate) that I normally used to cross. One of my sons used to a Canadian Custom official. He said that the worst thing that you can do is lie, because they know the answer from their screen before it is asked. It is when you lie that you end up sitting behind the 8 ball.

    Find out if any vehicle you were using would be confiscated or if they just turn you back.

    Good luck.
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    It may be possible to cross as a passenger with someone. Maybe even take a bus to Buffalo.
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    Get it in writing

    Whatever you decide to do, if you do contact authorities about this situation, get their response in writing! Make sure any document(s) are signed by that authority.

    Government agencies are not synchronized. One hand will not necessarily know what the other has deemed okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_F View Post

    Find out if any vehicle you were using would be confiscated or if they just turn you back.

    Good luck.
    Vehicles are only seized when someone is being smuggled into the US or if contraband is found. The most that would happen would be a short wait while paperwork is processed and then you would be returned. Avoid deception - honesty goes a long way.
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    Shoe on the other foot. In 2008 we decided to vacation in Alaska. We got passports and dropped a line to the Canadian Gov. After reviewing their list we took a ferry boat from Washington State to Anchorage and never set foot in Canada. Wife and I both "carry" concealed everywhere we go. Legally! I guess we'll not contribute to Canadian economy.
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