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    Question ZUMO Tech Question?

    Considering a ZUMO 550.

    If I read the literature correctly, when the unit is mounted on the motorcycle, the only way to hear route instructions is via a Bluetooth-comm equipped helmet?

    Is there no external speaker to hear instructions simply with the naked ear?

    I know the suction mount for in the car/truck comes with an "integrated speaker," but what about when it's on the motorcycle?

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    According to the specs on their website, you have Bluetooth or the headphone jack. Looks like the external speaker is only on the car mount.

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    Or listen thru earbuds/helmet mounted speakers hooked to the output jack on the left side of the bike cradle. Might be a way to hook an external speaker up as well, not sure how loud you could crank the Garmin up to hear while cruising that way.
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    First off Zumo is the only way to go if you can afford it. Cheaper units out there, but in my opinion this is the best for bike use.

    I have always used wired headphones with mine. I use them for both directions and the built in MP3 player.

    I have never tried Bluetooth on my Zumo because I do not ride with Bluetooth compatible stuff (yet).

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    remember the 550 used old technology BT.. not A2DP which is what the 660/5 uses.. If you plan on using it for MP3's... w/o A2DP it won't be stereo.

    The 550 is already 5 year old technology.. why not get the 660????

    (Nice travel trip BTW Kev, just read it in March BMWON.. Sounded a little hairy!! ;-)
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    If you have a comm system you can output to that as well but if not using the supplied cradle bluetooth may be the only other option.

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    This will be my 4th year using the Zumo-550. I have a bluetooth on my helmet for directions, phone calls, I am on call alot and this lets me ride with out getting in trouble at work, and last weekend I errased 12 of 16 cd's I loaded onto the unit and installed 12 new cd's and a few photos for this years riding. The Zumo has been totally trouble free in the time I have used it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRw2ge View Post
    remember the 550 used old technology BT.. not A2DP which is what the 660/5 uses.. If you plan on using it for MP3's... w/o A2DP it won't be stereo.

    The 550 is already 5 year old technology.. why not get the 660????

    (Nice travel trip BTW Kev, just read it in March BMWON.. Sounded a little hairy!! ;-)
    I'll consider the 660, but more bucks, for sure.

    And thanks for the kind words on the 3-part 'adventure.'

    Let me restate my primary question, though:

    Presume for a moment I have NO HELMET COMM system whatsoever. Will the Zumo 550 (or 660) announce its directions aloud for me to hear with the naked ear?
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    Kev.. in a simple answer to your question... YES. The 550 has a speaker (in fact, I wonder if their is a GPS that DOESN'T have s speaker) but now the caveat:

    I really doubt you will hear the announcements when riding... Before I went to BT, I used another good GPS (and heck of a deal, and allows custom routes) the Nuvi 5XX series. It has a VERY loud speaker but unless I was almost at a stop, engine idling, I couldn't hear a thing. I must say it didn't bother me in the least... You get very good at taking very fast glances at the GPS (of course, eyes are off the roads then...) and knowing what is coming up.....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALDiGADCl9c Review of the Nuvi 500 waterproof capabilities Hysterical, they use the GPS in a fishtank for 30 minutes.. but NO Bluetooth.

    BTW, before you decide.. look at drivenGPS.com -refurb units-... you may find a 660 for less than a 550!!! Factory warranty, same as new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenwald View Post
    I'll consider the 660, but more bucks, for sure.
    The 660/665 has a speaker, I don't recall if the 450/550 does or not, I always used it wired via Autocom. (I don't think it has a speaker.)
    The 660/665 is MUCH faster than the 450/550.
    The 660/665 has much more internal memory than the 450/550.

    I had two 550's for a few years, sold them both and bought a 660 and a 665. I wouldn't go back. The newest map updates from Garmin are too big to fit on the 450/550. You have to select regions. With the 660/665, I've got the North America map set, Topo US and Topo Canada all installed on internal memory, with plenty of room left over.

    The 660 is $100 cheaper than the 550. Garmin's website is the best place to compare models in grid format.
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    New to Zumo 660

    I have used a 276C for the better part of ten year for motorcycle navagation, but the allure of better technology got me and I purchsed a Zumo 660 last week. So far so good, but I have one question.

    Is there any way to delete all the routes or waypoints as in the 276C ( delete all). Deleting one at a time is a little tedious ?
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    Without having my 660 in front of me, I think if you go to tools, my data you may be able to delete ''all'' that way. (Rather than just Favorites, edit.) You could also do a master reset (but you lose everything, (take it back to day one) by putting your finger on the bottom right corner of the screen, turning it on and holding for a bit.

    Re: Using Google Maps, it isn't ever going to work just right because the maps in your GPS and Google Maps are different. They are not exactly the same and that will always cause routes to lay improperly. In fact, it's important that the mapset in both Mapsource and your GPS are exactly the same for just that "point".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRw2ge View Post
    Re: Using Google Maps, it isn't ever going to work just right because the maps in your GPS and Google Maps are different. They are not exactly the same and that will always cause routes to lay improperly. In fact, it's important that the mapset in both Mapsource and your GPS are exactly the same for just that "point".
    What you say is true and is why I consider GPS routing to be just a suggestion. Maps from anybody are never completely up to date with the reality of actual roads.

    I like Google because it's very easy to use and maps get updated more often than any of the maps loaded in your devices. POI's are especially incomplete.

    There are some great tools out there now like maps with bus stops marked along with the time the next bus is expected. Cool stuff. I think I saw this on the iPhone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRw2ge View Post
    {snip}...Using Google Maps, it isn't ever going to work just right because the maps in your GPS and Google Maps are different. They are not exactly the same and that will always cause routes to lay improperly. In fact, it's important that the mapset in both Mapsource and your GPS are exactly the same for just that "point".
    IMHO, I'm not sure I find this totally accurate. I regularly download routes generated on both Google and MapQuest to my Garmin Nuvi 550 and I have not had problems with roads "laying" differently. Garmin mimics whatever MapQuest and Google generates for a route.

    I have noticed significant routing differences when directly comparing Google to MapQuest. This is not due to lat/lon differences, however. Roads are fixed to the Earth and coordinates of road points don't differ substantially between between the digital data collection tools used by the various mapping services (NavTeq, TeleAtlas, etc.) in the field.

    What DOES differ are the several hundred road "attributes" (surface, speed limit, seasonal designation, etc.) and the various waypoints each mapping service uses to customize their product. Other differences between services are the presence or absence of new roads. This latter difference can be significant when routing and is most often found in mapping services that do not do frequent (at least quarterly) field updates.

    Also, remember that when developing routes, each GPS manufacturer (and Google/MapQuest) develops their own routing algorithms. Almost all of the algorithms depend not as much on on the lat/lon data, but more heavily rely on the proprietary (NON lat/lon) road attributes given to them by the mapping services. Remember, each mapping service constructs their own road attributes.

    The difference in routing between Google and MapQuest most likely originates in how their routing algorithms interpret these road attributes. I was not able to get Google to route me over a seasonal road (regardless of month of travel) in NH. However, MapQuest allowed me to do so. Thus, Google rejected seasonal roads for consideration in their routing algorithm where MapQuest allowed them. In this case, the seasonal road routing was 30 miles shorter!

    So, I am suggesting that the routing differences appear to be due to the "source" routing algorithm and not the Garmin. Because of my seasonal road experience, I prefer to use MapQuest for online route planning.
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    Theo,

    I believe the routing algorithm are all Garmin's... The GPS just takes raw data from "whatever" source you feed it (i.e. Google) and "recalculates" it and lays down the the route based upon:

    A.)Garmin Internal routing algortihms (laying it onto your internal mapset in your GPS)
    b.) as well as your chosen "routing preferences" in your GPS. (They come into play if you don't have a ton of viapoints forcing everything

    What do you think?
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