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    Polarbear Polarbear's Avatar
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    A better BED,camping?

    I've been using my Big Agnes system for a few years now with good to great results, BUT. I want better! The BA air mattress takes forever to inflate, is its worst problem, otherwise great packing size and average to good comfort sleeping on it. I've been wondering lately about another "Goose Down" bag for max warmth and a better quick inflating mattress that provides the same warmth as the BA mattress and maybe slightly softer too. I'm getting older and still camp vigorously throughout Winter months too. Anybody like me? I happen to see at REI a few days ago, some thicker self inflating types, but had no time to look and try'em out at the store. I have to go back. Therma Rest and others have always been so "bulky" to pack down to a reasonable size for the bike. Help? Randy"Polarbear"

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    unfortunately, comfortable usually = bulky

    I carry a Go Kot and a thermarest for a good nights sleep. I've found that if i'm not sleeping well, I can be a CRANKY SOB.

    But with my Go Kot, (and my backpacking pillow), life is good....

    YMMV
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    GoKot and Big Agnes bag with sleeve for a Big Agnes pad -- best camping sleep I've had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mneblett View Post
    GoKot and Big Agnes bag with sleeve for a Big Agnes pad -- best camping sleep I've had.
    So what do you use on the legs to protect the tent floor?
    keep it light enough to travel.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2BikeMike View Post
    So what do you use on the legs to protect the tent floor?
    Typically I have a couple heavy bags (such as Helen2Wheels roll sacks) with me -- something that helps spread out the load. That said, the "legs" on the GoKot are continuous lengths of wire, with no sharp edges and a total of 6 lines of contact with the ground -- I'd be pretty comfortable using them driectly on the tent floor as long as the tent's accompanying ground cloth is in place under the tent. Come to thing about it, that's what I did at the Finger Lakes rally last fall, with no issues.
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    I think I'm happy;

    I found today the REI Store near me sells just what I wanted. A 3.5 inch very quick inflating mattress, with 2 valves for just that. It inflates in less than 2-3 minutes, all on itsownself! Fits into my BA bag too, so now I carry no more inflating pump. REI let me try it out on their showroom platform for this purpose. It packs much easier with double valves, but is bigger and will have to go on top of my saddlebags and has a nice bag included for this. The two valves are something all others should have been using all along, as this is the ticket for quick setup and takedown. 72x32" unit packs down to 7"x32" and weighs 5 lbs. At 225lbs, I feel comfy as home on this new pad at 3.5inches thick. Also keeps the cold out as Therma Rest/BA and the other like products do. I am happy with this NO MORE pumpup matress and it takes one step out of the camp setup. Neat! Thanks for the cott advice, as its always been a favorite from those I've talked too using them. I've not tried it, but will go my way here a while longer and see...This new pad is the thickest I've seen on the market so far and still is not a bad packer for the bike and my olfer shoulders will appreciate the comfort. Randy

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    Wally World air mattress/electric inflator for "rally trips" = cheap, comfortable bed.

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    I use a space blanket

    protects the floor, and if it get really cold, i can always put it inside of my sleeping bag.... (of course i say that, but didn't do it when i went camping last Oct in 30 degree weather...


    Quote Originally Posted by 2BikeMike View Post
    So what do you use on the legs to protect the tent floor?
    Somers, NY

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    Thumbs up Best so far....

    The best combination I've found so far is the Luxury Lite Ultralight Cot and the
    Thermarest NeoAir inflatable mattress. The cot keeps you off the cold ground
    and the mattress can be adjusted for your specific needs. The cot packs up very
    small and weighs about 3 lbs., the mattress folds and rolls down to the size of a nalgene bottle and weighs less than a pound. Neither of these items is cheap, but they are really, really, comfortable. Don

    http://www.luxurylite.com/cotindex.html

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    I have a Therm-a-rest luxury mattress that is 3" thick when inflated. I roll my tent up inside the Therm-a-rest (poles and all) and lash the big sleep burrito across the top of my radio box.

    Then, when I arrive at camp, all I have to do is unroll the mattress and my tent is ready for set-up.
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    Exped's the bomb

    Polar,

    Glad you're on your way with your new mattress. If it doesn't work out, try the mattress that most high altitude mountaineers and guides take with them as they age....which tells you how good this thing is in the warmth to weight to space ratio department:

    Exped Downmat (NOT Synmat, which is the only Exped product now sold at REI)
    weighs about 1.2 kg which is about 2.5 pounds
    inflates to about 3.5 inches of high quality down-filled dead air space beneath your sleeping bag
    insulation rating is 8; my Thermarest Neolite is rated half as warm, at 4 times warmer than sleeping on the ground.
    Costs about $200

    I'm still getting by on my Neolite, which is all I can really afford to carry in my pack, but I can see the day coming fast when I'll want an Exped Downmat--and I can't see a reason why not to bring it aboard the moto.

    LW

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    The Exped is the most comfortable. Own Thermorest, hammocks, foams etc. won't leave home w/o the Exped.

    Quote Originally Posted by leaveword View Post
    Polar,

    Glad you're on your way with your new mattress. If it doesn't work out, try the mattress that most high altitude mountaineers and guides take with them as they age....which tells you how good this thing is in the warmth to weight to space ratio department:

    Exped Downmat (NOT Synmat, which is the only Exped product now sold at REI)
    weighs about 1.2 kg which is about 2.5 pounds
    inflates to about 3.5 inches of high quality down-filled dead air space beneath your sleeping bag
    insulation rating is 8; my Thermarest Neolite is rated half as warm, at 4 times warmer than sleeping on the ground.
    Costs about $200

    I'm still getting by on my Neolite, which is all I can really afford to carry in my pack, but I can see the day coming fast when I'll want an Exped Downmat--and I can't see a reason why not to bring it aboard the moto.

    LW

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    Quote Originally Posted by hikerjms View Post
    The Exped is the most comfortable. Own Thermorest, hammocks, foams etc. won't leave home w/o the Exped.
    +1

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