Living in Philly, I have the benefit of being right next door to revzilla. Went over there today and tried on some gloves. Ended up with the Held Freezers ($149) The other pair I tried on were the held warm n drys. I went with the freezers because they just seemed warmer and better insulated. The sales pitch for the wnd was that you can feel heated grips better with them, but I figure that's probably also true of freezing clutch/brake levers. My only trepidation about the freezers is that I think their strategy for waterproofing is an internal gore-tex barrier -- so the outer leather gets soaked, which I imagine could be quite chilly. Anyway, that's the report. Riding to work with them and then home wasn't too bad.