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    Had one of those dudes try to steal my Rally Pro 2 suit I had on Craig's List but realized it in time. All adds should say Pay - Pal only and that will keep them all away. Pay Pal is the only way I do anything now and it's easy

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    Ted - I just advertised my 89 325IX on the local Craigslist yesterday. Got an email that APPEARED to be from someone as though they'd clicked the "reply to" link in the actual email. The sender excoriated me for advertising his car for sale and threatened to bring the authorities in if I didn't take the ad (AND PICTURES of which, my ad has none!) of his car off CL. He helpfully provided a link:

    Here is whereI found listted under your account: http://portland.craigslist.org/cos/ctd/xxxxxxxxx.xxxxx

    And he even tells me he sent it from his iPhone!

    Interesting because Maine isn't big enough to have cities listed within CL. The link was actually obscured by a URL shortener too.

    Idiots.
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    That is a weird one, wonder what the angle is?

    As for the 325ix, man those 4wd e30's are some of the greatest cars BMW ever made! Great for Maine too! You in Portland now?
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    Ted, If you think the E30- X cars (I had 4 of them)were great, then drive the newer version! I have a 2008 for sale now and this is not a sales plug either, just the truth.The issue with the newer cars is they are , like most these days ,sorta impossible to work on as just too techy. No dipsticks, no spares,no jacks and so on is just the start, but they drive like a dream come true!
    As to bad stuff online, I sent some pics of a riding jacket to a flea mkt response yesterday and the pics were stored in a file on my computer that had some ebay sales item pics in it(that riding jacket had never been on ebay new or used) and labeled as such, so the guy says he got burned on ebay and so on. Well, getting burned on ebay and passing that on to the rest of us that are honest is a flying leap.Ebay & craigslist are obviously not the problem. All this gettin ripped is another level of what has always been around: some people are bad!Computers just make for a layer of obliviousness that can be hard to see through and the Paypal comment above is absolute fact. Had someone last week that wanted me to sell?(read mail them) them some pricey FB tics without paypal cause I might get a flat tire and not get there to hand deliver them. Isn't it fortunate that most of us are honest? What still seems to work is a phone call and finding out what breed you are dealing with if in doubt-sometimes...

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    Nope! Still in Augusta. And you're right. They are TANKS in the winter. I have a set of snows mounted and that car is unstoppable in the winter time. My problem is, I just don't drive it anymore. I just had it inspected last weekend. The sticker they scraped off had 154006 written in for the mileage last October 2009. Mileage on the new one? 156300. Just not worth keeping.....
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    I'll ad this one from my Want to Buy ad for a Final Drive for my R75/5. Glad I got your warning email yesterday... other than being five thousand mile away, I might have considered contacting him.

    He's also scamming motor sports enthusiasts in the UK and antique radio enthusiasts as well

    See: http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/...9895c1d3f94e65

    See: http://www.race-cars.com/wantbd/messages/13158.htm

    His email: harry.ponitar300@gmail.com



    ************************************************** ***********
    Hello,

    This is Harry Ponitar from the United Kingdom.You placed a wanted Ad
    over the internet and i have for sale in good and excellent condition.

    You can ring me on +447024012862 and
    +447024082587

    Thanks
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    I think in that case I would reply with something like:

    "Well, I have several want ad's in, which item was it that you have that is in good and excellent condition?"
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    The e30's are a breeze to work on, I once replaced a fuel pump in my 1991 325iC in the parking lot of a hotel in Dayton, Ohio, during a terrific lightning storm. They are a lot like the K75 of cars, especially when it comes down to finding and fixing unmetered air leaks I really miss that car, it still handled better than any car I have owned since.

    As for our scammer(s) he/they are an insidious bunch and for now getting the word out is the best defense. We are working on new warnings and some back end things to keep them out, along with trying to find out how they are getting in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted View Post
    As for our scammer(s) he/they are an insidious bunch and for now getting the word out is the best defense. We are working on new warnings and some back end things to keep them out, along with trying to find out how they are getting in.
    MOA = Money Opportunities Always

    Suppose one of the distinguished gents wishes to join the MOA and even submit a resume to Beemerville to volunteering at our rallies, can we stop them ?
    If one cannot command attention by one's admirable qualities one can at least be a nuisance

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    As long as they don't ask us to wire money via Western Union or MoneyGram, or call them on a phone beginning "+44 70..." I suppose I would leave that up to the fine folks running the volunteers to decide

    Seriously, these guys succeed by fooling folks into thinking they are in the UK and getting folks to wire money where it can be picked up anonymously anywhere in the world (like Lagos...) If you stay away from Western Union and MoneyGram you will eliminate 99% of these guys. Services like PayPal work well because it is trackable and there is a dispute resolution system - it may not be the best but it sure scares off most of these guys. There will always be people who steal, who "forget to send" their end, etc. Fortunately with a little diligence most of these guys can be avoided.
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    Just received a minute ago

    Received: from [41.155.108.60]
    Hostname: dial-pool108.lg.starcomms.net
    ISP: Starcomms Limited
    Country: Nigeria
    State/Region: Lagos

    From: Richard Green [eln0green@yahoo.com]
    To: undisclosed recipients:
    Subject: Help..... Richard Green

    I'm writing this with tears.I made a quick trip to United Kingdom on a short vacation and i got mugged at the park of hotel where i stayed. worse of it was that our bags, cash and credit cards were all stolen at GUNPOINT leaving me penniless right now.

    It's was a horrible experience for me and i need help flying back home,the authorities are not being 100% supportive but the good thing is that i still have my passports. i need some cash to settle my bills and get on flight back to the state. please let me know if you can help.

    I'm freaked out at the moment..

    Thanks..
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    LetÔÇÖs take up a collection and help Richard, it is the forum way after all.

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    Haha - too late, I already responded

    Holy Cow Richard, this just happened to you last week and you still owe me $300 from that. You really need to stop traveling to the UK. Speaking of which, just how is the weather in Lagos these days?
    Fortunately this came in on a throwaway e-mail account I use just to enter contests and get my daily NewEgg ads
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    That fake cry for help in Ted's post is worded exactly like the one that I and a few others received a couple of weeks ago - except that this allegedly came from my uncle. I contacted him directly to ask about it, and he confirmed it was BS. What actually caught my eye was that the "From" edress was ONE letter different from my uncle's, so I immediately recognized it as probable scamming. On the downside, a lot of people on my uncle's Contacts list got this and didn't recognize the scam. I reported it to our ISP's.

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    These guys are getting good, they scrape sites like Facebook for friend lists for connected e-mails, and hijack accounts there as well to send these things out using the in-house messaging system. Best bet is to never use Western Union or MoneyGram, virtually every scam relies on the anonymity and worldwide access those services offer. Also, if you are not running a good antivirus program you could be the next victim. I personally like the newest Norton 360 but it is not cheap. Your ISP may offer a free one (Comcast offers McAfee free to customers) and if not, try AGV Free or Free Avast, both are excellent so long as you set them to auto-update.

    As for Apple users, the days of being free from the scourge of viruses are ending quickly Fortunately, you too have excellent, free options.
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