With cold weather approaching I was deciding between heated gloves and handle bar muffs, I ordered the muffs. Seemed like the way to go with a little more freedom of movement and with the heated grips on the F800GS should be good to go. The order came in Friday from Wunderlich http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mot...S/8110360.html and they seem to be of good quality. Here's the problem-all my attempts to fit seem to fail. They went to a lot of trouble to make these and when I fit them in their best position I'm concerned that there is enough pressure over the start button that hand/arm movement could have enough tension to engage the starter while I'm riding. I'm going to give them a call tomorrow but I thought I'd put it out on the forum to see if anybody's tried this before. Thanks Gary