Sidecase Security and Owner ID Strategies

[Visian]

back in the day when i used stock bags, i used a simple nylon strap around the bag and mounting brackets as a backup. these were the old-style krausers with the loop frame/mount.

not sure if this will work with the newer bags & mounts as it might be possible for the bag to drop onto the rear wheel?

nowadays i use jesse boxes and their mounting system is nuclear strong... the only way it will fall off is if you forget to close the latch that holds the bag to the mount.

ian

ps => bob - are you going to write an article for the ON on this? it sounds like a great subject.

[kantuckid]

If you use the drill and clip to the bike method, why worry with with an info tag?

[XTrooper]

If you use the drill and clip to the bike method, why worry with with an info tag?

What "drill and clip" method?

[kantuckid]

A search will get you the info and pictures as this is a known fix for R bikes. My frame of reference is the R1150R.Go to Home Depot hardware drawer (lowes doesn't have em)and buy a large wire clip-looks kinda like a large crude safety pin. The one that works is either the largest or next largest,~ 2.5" long,a pair, one for each bag. I even sent several to a guy in Aisa who couldn't find them there. At the front lower bracket for the OEM sidecase, you carefully drill a hole of approx. 1/16" dia., and what barely allows the pin to pass through black plastic AND! aluminum AND! the side case tab there. This means that your side case is temporarily fixed to the bike, unless you unclip it , of course. Cheap and simple.
I feel ceratin there are other means to get creative and assure the bags on other models dont hit the pavement. I'll also share that the site, www.r1150r.net has the subject worn out and fully described.
I can send a pic if you have the same application, PM me. My pics don't like to go on this forum so include an email.

[XTrooper]

A search will get you the info and pictures as this is a known fix for R bikes. My frame of reference is the R1150R.Go to Home Depot hardware drawer (lowes doesn't have em)and buy a large wire clip-looks kinda like a large crude safety pin. The one that works is either the largest or next largest,~ 2.5" long,a pair, one for each bag. I even sent several to a guy in Aisa who couldn't find them there. At the front lower bracket for the OEM sidecase, you carefully drill a hole of approx. 1/16" dia., and what barely allows the pin to pass through black plastic AND! aluminum AND! the side case tab there. This means that your side case is temporarily fixed to the bike, unless you unclip it , of course. Cheap and simple.
I feel ceratin there are other means to get creative and assure the bags on other models dont hit the pavement. I'll also share that the site, www.r1150r.net has the subject worn out and fully described.
I can send a pic if you have the same application, PM me. My pics don't like to go on this forum so include an email.

I have a R12RT, but I've got the idea. Thanks for the explanation!

[BCKRider]

Is this just an R bike problem?

With my K bikes I do lock the clasp that attaches the bag to the frame, not to prevent theft since getting them on and off is hard enough for me, but to ensure they will stay in place if I crash and maybe the bike won't crush me.

I have on occasion forgotten to ensure the other two clasps were in place (really dumb, and thanks to those pointing cage drivers I never lost anything.) Since I only carry clothes and camping gear in these bags on longer trips, I never lock them. My reasoning is most thieves don't want what I carry there and, if they do, I would rather they took it than ruined the clasps on my bags and also stole my stuff.

Again, what am I missing?

[98288]

Is this just an R bike problem?

With my K bikes I do lock the clasp that attaches the bag to the frame, not to prevent theft since getting them on and off is hard enough for me, but to ensure they will stay in place if I crash and maybe the bike won't crush me.
I have on occasion forgotten to ensure the other two clasps were in place (really dumb, and thanks to those pointing cage drivers I never lost anything.) Since I only carry clothes and camping gear in these bags on longer trips, I never lock them. My reasoning is most thieves don't want what I carry there and, if they do, I would rather they took it than ruined the clasps on my bags and also stole my stuff.

Again, what am I missing?

Although our K1100LT is now 18 years old, I thought that the lock would be fine holding the bag IN while the weight therein would keep it from vibrating up. Wrong. Lost (but now found) the darn thing on a bumpy section of Maine road. Now I will label, bolt down, bungee, strap, whatever to ensure that they can be identiified and will stay where they are most useful to me. Although I have found that very few folks tamper with a bike, I do think that keeping it all unlocked only invites punk kids to open them (after all they are intrinsically lazy and impatient). The same way that they move about checking car and house doors. At night the inner bags comes with me and I do leave them unlocked then (locked to frame though). - Bob

[stanley83]

A PO of my R75/6 made a simple mod to keep the Krausers from going AWOL. A captive nut was attached to the top-forward corner of the rack. A corresponding hole was drilled in the case and a wing-bolt with a rubber washer holds the case to the rack.

I'll post pictures if there is interest.

This mod does not keep the door from opening, so I'm looking for a method other than straps to keep my stuff safe.

[AKBEEMER]

I just ordered some labels from these folks, GolfLabels.com.

These are labels designed to be attached to the shaft of golf clubs; be exposed to the weather; and, stand-up to abuse such as when a club is thrown at a tree by a frustrated Tiger wanna be (I have no personal experience in such behavior, but I met a guy who saw a guy do it once).

Cost $9.50 for 20 or $18.00 for 40 labels. Shipping is a universal $2.00. At that price it is reasonable to replace the labels if they are showing signs of wear and tear.

[98288]

I just ordered some labels from these folks, GolfLabels.com.

These are labels designed to be attached to the shaft of golf clubs; be exposed to the weather; and, stand-up to abuse such as when a club is thrown at a tree by a frustrated Tiger wanna be (I have no personal experience in such behavior, but I met a guy who saw a guy do it once).

Cost $9.50 for 20 or $18.00 for 40 labels. Shipping is a universal $2.00. At that price it is reasonable to replace the labels if they are showing signs of wear and tear.

Post pics when they arrive. Sounds like a good way to ensure that they stay attached. As well, I still like your earlier idea about a BMWMOA central registry and 800# regarding lost articles, which can be put on the tags as well. - Bob

[AKBEEMER]

I just ordered some labels from these folks, GolfLabels.com.

These are labels designed to be attached to the shaft of golf clubs; be exposed to the weather; and, stand-up to abuse such as when a club is thrown at a tree by a frustrated Tiger wanna be (I have no personal experience in such behavior, but I met a guy who saw a guy do it once).

Cost $9.50 for 20 or $18.00 for 40 labels. Shipping is a universal $2.00. At that price it is reasonable to replace the labels if they are showing signs of wear and tear.

Here's what they look like. Available in a variety of colors; printed on metallic film; coated in vinyl; I'm guessing they will last a couple of years at least.

[greenwald]

Like Ted, I place a business card with my name and phone number (and the word REWARD) on the back, inside of my cases - then smother it with clear packing tape. Lasts for years.

Should a bag ever go AWOL, I at least stand a chance of getting it back.

Another issue the original poster brought up was that of security. Let me relate to you one of my adventures.

While on some MSF training in Madision, WI this past October, I got out to the R1200RT early one very, very cold morning and the latch mechanism that locks the side case shut broke (something plastic, I suspect). Now, I have a pannier that will stay on the bike, but will not stay closed.

Solution? Always have with you a wide roll of blue painter's tape (a recently published Touring Tip by the way). You can wrap it numerous times around at least two locations on the side case, and it will keep it shut throughout the day.

When you need what's inside come evening, just unwrap the tape - it doesn't damage or leave behind any residue on the paint finiish.

Next day - more tape, and you're on your way.

Cost of repairing the sidecase: $263 at my BMW dealer. Thank goodness again for my Contego Extended Warranty, in effect thru February of 2014.

So far, at an original investment of $599, it has replaced a transmission seal ($250), a final drive ($2,000+) and now paid for the side case repair ($263). Even when you factor in the mandatory $50 deductible per incident, it's been a bargain!