2011 Rally-Bloomsburg,Pa.

[LTLJOHN]

Statdawg,
Great write up, but I can't believe you did not mention Knoebels. http://www.knoebels.com/

A family owned pay by the ride and free parking amusement park only 12 miles away. It has an interesting history on the website.

[LTLJOHN]

Stoudt's in Adamstown would be a much better alternative

Why not both along with Victory in Downingtown, PA http://www.victorybeer.com/home.aspx

http://www.stoudtsbeer.com/brewery.html

[36654]

Why not both along with Victory in Downingtown, PA http://www.victorybeer.com/home.aspx

http://www.stoudtsbeer.com/brewery.html

Stoudt's is one of the few US microbrewers that can make good lagers and wheat beers. Victory is fun and similar to the old Seattle/Portland micros that viewed over-hopped ales as the end-all of beers. Bullfrog in Williamsport, Otto's in State College and Appalachian in Harrisburg are all nice microbreweries and have good food at reasonable prices. If you make the trip to Williamsport, you might try Franco's Italian restaurant and should visit Bob Logue's Honda Museum. Nearby, in Lock Haven, PA there is the Piper Aircraft Museum, which might be of interest.

[Clay]

..just a partial list of Pa. motorcycle roads.....

http://www.motorcycleroads.com/route...A/PA_index.htm

Regards,

Clay
Kimberton,Pa.

[Visian]

The roads north to northwest and east are very good.
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another great infoblurt from the dawg.

we have discussed this location before... i am glad it has seen the light of day.

the site also got looked at ~10 years ago, but didn't have some of the required facilities.

party at dawg's farm!

ian

[36654]

the site also got looked at ~10 years ago, but didn't have some of the required facilities.

For some unknown reason, the idea of a state/county fairgrounds in PA was never similar to that in the Mid-west. In Centre County, they have the Grange Encampment and Fair which is several thousand people tenting and RV'ing for a week. Surprisingly, it wasn't until the very late 70's or early 80's that flush toilets and showers were installed. The Bloomsburg fairgrounds was by all accounts much better, but still coming from a PA Dutch standard (pretty bare bones relative to a midwest fair).

This might sound really bad, but the Midland Rally facilities were pretty nice. The stalls were very clean and provided nice shaded camping. In addition, the livestock prep areas were great shower facilities with copious amounts of warm water. Of course, for us modest folks, you did need a something like a swimsuit.

[Clay]

We are fortunate to have (6) BMW m/c Dealers..but there has been (2) more added...

http://www.motorcycle.com/dealers/pe...w-dealers.html

..and they are..

http://www.kissellmotorsports.com/

http://www.montgomeryvillecc.com/

Clay
Kimberton,Pa.

[statdawg]

Yeah, that's something to boast about in our legal code. Right up there with 14 as the minimum age for legal marriage, if pregnant.

Let's not get too alarmist about the hotel situation. Danville is nearby with a plethora of chain hotels to support the medical center and the northern tier is primarily dependent on tourist income these days, so there's an excess of hotel space. Please keep in mind that this stretch of I80 routinely handles a large chunk of the 110,000-fans that attend PSU football games, so hotel space isn't that challenging.

I81 down to one lane this summer between Wilkes-Barre and Scranton? Why am I much less than surprised.

+1

PennDOT has it one lane from Wilkes-Barre to Dorrance for bridge repair in the southbound lane starting soon. I think RT 81 was never completed in my lifetime.

The hotels were a past issue since the sacred number had to be within a 25 mile radius. I doubt beer sales in Bloomsburg would hamper past selection since its a course requirement among the student population.

In fairness you know how members are, if they have to drive ten miles or more from the hotel to the rally site they will complain about it. True, Penn State can handle 110,000 football fans but its 90 miles from Bloomsburg. I know there are plenty of Hotels between here and there but most are on the interstate. Danville ( near Geisinger Health System ) hotels are for families visiting the sick, and people caught in past construction, and remember Life Flight flys 24/7 and they have 5 helicopter making noise, no worse than truck traffic. I will have it scouted over time from Hazleton top of the 80's, Selinsgrove, Danville, Milton, Lewisburg, Light Street area north of Bloomsburg, Sullivan County to Wilkes-Barre with direct routing to scenic ways to arrive. One thing I like about Pennsylvania, it offers lots of roads. And there is plenty of State Park Camping for early arrivals.

Ian, Lots of dirt options available, there is a MOA member run MSF Dirt Bike School nearby, Hermys ran GS rides in the coal and Dutch borders region. The Pocono Test Dummies the step children of the Black Diamond Club ( out of Two Jacks BMW ) rides off road in the Poconos and Delaware Highlands. BMW USA to Max, Bergen County to Bobs BMW could get involved, there is a dirt bike track and a former GS Challenge site near Williamsport in a town called Mill Hall http://www.durtydabbers.com/ , or just run routes from the site, your typical follow the leader with a stop for breakfast, lunch or dinner, and there is the infield to do what our members do best. I was hoping BMW would get away from GSsing and lets take the R 1000 SS to Turbo-ville.

[36654]

+1

The hotels were a past issue since the sacred number had to be within a 25 mile radius. I doubt beer sales in Bloomsburg would hamper past selection since its a course requirement among the student population.

Bloomsburg U isn't very big (~3K students) and many of those are commuters. I would also anticipate that most of the surrounding townships are dry. Remember this is the land of the PA Dutch......the folks that were asked to leave Germany by their neighbors.

Ian, Lots of dirt options available, there is a MOA member run MSF Dirt Bike School nearby, Hermys ran GS rides in the coal and Dutch borders region. The Pocono Test Dummies the step children of the Black Diamond Club ( out of Two Jacks BMW ) rides off road in the Poconos and Delaware Highlands. BMW USA to Max, Bergen County to Bobs BMW could get involved, there is a dirt bike track and a former GS Challenge site near Williamsport in a town called Mill Hall http://www.durtydabbers.com/ , or just run routes from the site, your typical follow the leader with a stop for breakfast, lunch or dinner, and there is the infield to do what our members do best. I was hoping BMW would get away from GSsing and lets take the R 1000 SS to Turbo-ville.

As a landowner whose neighbors have had bad experiences with this Mill Hall "trail ride", please remember your manners and don't be surprised if you find yourself on someone's property as an uninvited guest. Also, some people rely on those dirt roads for regular transportation, don't be a jerk.........leave them in good shape.

[pffog]

..just a partial list of Pa. motorcycle roads.....

http://www.motorcycleroads.com/route...A/PA_index.htm

Regards,

Clay
Kimberton,Pa.

Man I am glad they left out all the good roads, or at least the tightest twistiest ones. I hate seeing all the nice roads crowded.

[statdawg]

Bloomsburg U isn't very big (~3K students) and many of those are commuters. I would also anticipate that most of the surrounding townships are dry. Remember this is the land of the PA Dutch......the folks that were asked to leave Germany by their neighbors.



As a landowner whose neighbors have had bad experiences with this Mill Hall "trail ride", please remember your manners and don't be surprised if you find yourself on someone's property as an uninvited guest. Also, some people rely on those dirt roads for regular transportation, don't be a jerk.........leave them in good shape.

Bloomburg runs summer classes which could be a dorm housing issue.

Mill Hall trail riders group runs a Dual Purpose bike event........I was never up there to see what they are about. I think BMW may have had a bike release event there or one down near Tremont at an offroad park.

There is a good fire road in Central that takes you up toward the back side of Rickets Glen State Park with little residencial impact. Then off of Rt 487 you can take the old narow gauge railroad track, now a trail to Noxen. Little or no landowner impact just a fire road through the woods. Great for beginners to intermediate riders. I am not sure of the Coal region, Pocono, and Dutch Border possibilities and of course most is private.

Last I was on the State Game Land roads there were many closed gates so access is another issue. I certainly don't want to see a train of GS bikes playing crack the whip, nor blocked on a road.

GS events could be taken care of at the infield on the grounds as they were at Johnson City.

[terham]

Great to hear the rally is coming to PA. I may be a rally virgin no more.

[36654]

Bloomburg runs summer classes which could be a dorm housing issue.

Mill Hall trail riders group runs a Dual Purpose bike event........I was never up there to see what they are about. I think BMW may have had a bike release event there or one down near Tremont at an offroad park.

There is a good fire road in Central that takes you up toward the back side of Rickets Glen State Park with little residencial impact. Then off of Rt 487 you can take the old narow gauge railroad track, now a trail to Noxen. Little or no landowner impact just a fire road through the woods. Great for beginners to intermediate riders. I am not sure of the Coal region, Pocono, and Dutch Border possibilities and of course most is private.

Last I was on the State Game Land roads there were many closed gates so access is another issue. I certainly don't want to see a train of GS bikes playing crack the whip, nor blocked on a road.

GS events could be taken care of at the infield on the grounds as they were at Johnson City.

Statdawg, I don't live in the town of Central, but I agree that Rickett's Glen is a must see for that part of PA. If we have had good rainfall and the stream is healthy, the series of falls is really nice. A small version of Buttermilk falls in Ithaca and Watkins Glen, NY.

Relative to the roads on the state game lands and forests, I suggest the following website http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/forestry...sts/index.aspx. While not a GS'er, I do most of my riding near the Sproul and Tiadaghton forests.

[dancogan]

Don't forget the fishing in PA, especially fly fishing for trout. It's been a while since I lived and fished in PA, but there are plenty of nice streams, some world class, within a day's ride.

[36654]

Don't forget the fishing in PA, especially fly fishing for trout. It's been a while since I lived and fished in PA, but there are plenty of nice streams, some world class, within a day's ride.

Spruce Creek in Huntingdon County?