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    Roundel NOT a Propeller

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    It's been well known for a number of years now that the roundel represents an oilhead transmission shaft as viewed from the end after it has been stripped of its splines.

    I've heard some suggest that the blau und weiss color scheme were taken from the Bavarian flag, but as it turns out, the same colors appear on a high denomination deutchmark.

    Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
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    And the debate rages on.
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    I was told the blue juxtaposed with the white represents the Yin and Yang of BMW ownership, in so far as it costs out the yinyang to own one.

    Not my opinion, just adding to the sum of knowledge on the planet.
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    Hopefully this explains it.. http://bmwmotorcycletech.info/roundel.htm
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    The history of the roundel is clouded enough that one can choose an origin.

    My favourite is this:
    A BMW aircraft Engineer, disgruntled because he was tasked with the design of a motorcycle engine, marked it with a spinning propeller.
    The roundel became too well known for upper management to change when they discovered the truth.

    Great story. That's what I tell everybody!

    Where did the "screamin' eagle" come from?
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    Once you've seen that spinning propeller ad, it'll always be a spinning propeller, no matter what anybody sez.
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    oh, thanks heavens this has been sorted out.

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    BMW themselves have debunked the propeller theory. The first mention of the propeller is from a sales brochure in 1929. Just follow this link

    http://www.bmw.com/generic/com_04/en..._2005_01_E.pdf

    to an article in the BMW Mobile Tradition magazine (Fact and Fiction, pages 38-41) that researches the history of the roundel. Basically, the roundel mimics the white/blue lozenge shapes of the Bavarian coat of arms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotorradMike View Post
    Where did the "screamin' eagle" come from?
    Probably "screaming" over the annoying noise.... Shut that Da***n thing off
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    BMW can "say" what it wants...... There's enough story on both sides of the argument. I'm with Tom, it's a propeller....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff488 View Post
    I was told the blue juxtaposed with the white represents the Yin and Yang of BMW ownership, in so far as it costs out the yinyang to own one.

    Not my opinion, just adding to the sum of knowledge on the planet.
    Best d@mn explanation I've heard yet

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    There is an animated version of this that I saw about 20 years ago. Haven't been able to find it on the net though.

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    Yeah it is!

    I'm with Tom. Maybe not on the cars ( they would never fly) but on the bikes it is a propeller representation. Just like religon you have to believe what you want it to be. Oops try not to doghouse....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MotorradMike View Post
    Where did the "screamin' eagle" come from?

    I can't vouch 100% for the truth of this story, but I have it on good authority from a friend in the Milwaukee area that the origin of the mighty Screaming Eagle goes back to what occurred just seconds before this picture was shot.
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